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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:47 am
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just heard that travis barker and dj am are the only 2 who survived a plane crash wit serious burms.the other 4 passegers of the plane died.incredible how they are the only 2 that made it.seems that after the plane crash they managed to exit the wreckage and were both on fire and struglling.
hope they make it .
in other news the marriot hotel in islamabad got bombed by al-qaeda.looks like there are a lot of people dead,more than 50 and 260 people wounded.also the czech ambassador is dead.the crater was 10 meter in depth and and 18 meters wide.
it's strange that this hapened in ramadam period which from what i know is a time when muslims celebrate and restrain themselves from acts of violence.
such a shitty world we live in,imagine that you could have been in a hotel like that,one of the biggest,very luxurios and presumebly one of the safest :(
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:16 am
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*PinHead* wrote:
just heard that travis barker and dj am are the only 2 who survived a planewhen muslims celebrate and restrain themselves from acts of violence.

It's a holy month were muslims get closer to god (iam a hypocrtie for saying this cos im muslim by name) and about restraining themselves from Violent act your making it look like Muslims are violent and always violent...thats fucking bullshit....



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:59 am
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just heard that travis barker and dj am are the only 2 who survived a planewhen muslims celebrate and restrain themselves from acts of violence.

It's a holy month were muslims get closer to god (iam a hypocrtie for saying this cos im muslim by name) and about restraining themselves from Violent act your making it look like Muslims are violent and always violent...thats fucking bullshit....

muslims that are terrorists and so on,not the whole nation.i remember reading about the radio one dj arrested in dubai who was released from jail on the ramadam ocasion.
i couldn't find any other word,but i mean that in this period people do good things not bad ones.so this act is kinda strange because it's done in this tome period



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:08 am
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hope no one from czech people in here got hurt. It's sad about travis baker he did awsom remixes of shity songs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnzXTGn3i58



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:22 am
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hope no one from czech people in here got hurt. It's sad about travis baker he did awsom remixes of shity songs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnzXTGn3i58

dude why the fuck czech people in here would get hirt.you guys pick on my posts for no reasons



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:02 am
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This is one of the reasons I stopped watching tv. All these sorts of 'news', man they mess me up. I tend to ignore the fuckers that bomb other people, pretend they don't exist. Fuck 'm, fuck the attention. Too bad about the people that got killer but hey, if I didn't watch the news I wouldn't know they were dead. It would be pointless for me to feel involved. Fifty people dead is quite something though...



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:10 am
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i don't understand why they bomb public places with civilians.at least try to bomb military objectives or try to get military people.i don't think the u.s. army or the other army's in the area go into afghanistan and start shooting at regular people on the street.this shows how much of cowards they really are



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:25 pm
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*PinHead* wrote:
i don't understand why they bomb public places with civilians.at least try to bomb military objectives or try to get military people.i don't think the u.s. army or the other army's in the area go into afghanistan and start shooting at regular people on the street.this shows how much of cowards they really are


this is what they call "terror".... and that's why you can't ignore this acts (agent orange)



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:33 pm
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*PinHead* wrote:
i don't understand why they bomb public places with civilians.at least try to bomb military objectives or try to get military people.i don't think the u.s. army or the other army's in the area go into afghanistan and start shooting at regular people on the street.this shows how much of cowards they really are


umm....

the us army has been shooting people in the street, as well as bombing them in their houses for quite a few years now - it's called collateral damage.

have a look at the figures for how many civilians have died in wars that america has been involved in over the last 50 years - you'll be shocked at how many there are.

it's just that the main western news media don't bother you with the details in the same way as it presents westerners dying.



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:42 pm
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jugo wrote:
*PinHead* wrote:
i don't understand why they bomb public places with civilians.at least try to bomb military objectives or try to get military people.i don't think the u.s. army or the other army's in the area go into afghanistan and start shooting at regular people on the street.this shows how much of cowards they really are


umm....

the us army has been shooting people in the street, as well as bombing them in their houses for quite a few years now - it's called collateral damage.

have a look at the figures for how many civilians have died in wars that america has been involved in over the last 50 years - you'll be shocked at how many there are.

it's just that the main western news media don't bother you with the details in the same way as it presents westerners dying.



that's war propaganda ... and it works! if you just look at how many people have died in Vietnam (bombs and poison)



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:55 pm
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Plain_John wrote:
this is what they call "terror".... and that's why you can't ignore this acts (agent orange)


Well, I sure can ignore this shit. That's the whole idea behind NOT watching tv. All this news, it just goes on and oooooon. The best fucking way you can get these guys (the 'terrorists') to shut up is to never mention them and kill them off silenty with armed forces on secret missions. What use does a terror attack have if hardly anyone knows about them? In fact, what use does it have to have daily updates about wars that are none of my business? If it wasn't for tv and internet, I would never know about this shit. In fact, what the fuck do I, a guy in The Netherlands, need this kind of news for? To feel scared about terrorists? If I was interested, maybe like Stasz, I would search for this news. A daily topic in the news is just fucking rediculous. The only shit I hear is numbers. 50 people killed there, 29 there, 7 blew themselves up, 40 got shot in the desert. So fucking what? The next thing I know is a show after the news, that plays bingo with these numbers, and you can sms for BIG PRIZES. Fuck tv, it's a mental carnival, a fucking circus. :?

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that's war propaganda ... and it works! if you just look at how many people have died in Vietnam (bombs and poison)
Sure it works! How do we get propaganda? Exactly, through news. Tv, internet and radio are the best ways to spread bullshit. The funny thing? We're all hooked to it and influenced by it. Nowadays everyone around me is moaning about these so-called 'terrorists'. I will only start to talk about it when they blow up something nearby. Otherwise, I couldn't care less about them. The reason it's such a big topic here is because of the news. All of a sudden everyone's scared, while there is no reason for us to panic (yet). Fucking hypocrits.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:50 pm
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no argument is coming to my mind right now, but I'm with the previous two


hours of TV (except movies) I've watched the previous month fit one hand. and proud of it



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:07 am
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Agent Orange wrote:
Plain_John wrote:
this is what they call "terror".... and that's why you can't ignore this acts (agent orange)


Well, I sure can ignore this shit. That's the whole idea behind NOT watching tv. All this news, it just goes on and oooooon. The best fucking way you can get these guys (the 'terrorists') to shut up is to never mention them and kill them off silenty with armed forces on secret missions. What use does a terror attack have if hardly anyone knows about them? In fact, what use does it have to have daily updates about wars that are none of my business? If it wasn't for tv and internet, I would never know about this shit. In fact, what the fuck do I, a guy in The Netherlands, need this kind of news for? To feel scared about terrorists? If I was interested, maybe like Stasz, I would search for this news. A daily topic in the news is just fucking rediculous. The only shit I hear is numbers. 50 people killed there, 29 there, 7 blew themselves up, 40 got shot in the desert. So fucking what? The next thing I know is a show after the news, that plays bingo with these numbers, and you can sms for BIG PRIZES. Fuck tv, it's a mental carnival, a fucking circus. :?

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that's war propaganda ... and it works! if you just look at how many people have died in Vietnam (bombs and poison)
Sure it works! How do we get propaganda? Exactly, through news. Tv, internet and radio are the best ways to spread bullshit. The funny thing? We're all hooked to it and influenced by it. Nowadays everyone around me is moaning about these so-called 'terrorists'. I will only start to talk about it when they blow up something nearby. Otherwise, I couldn't care less about them. The reason it's such a big topic here is because of the news. All of a sudden everyone's scared, while there is no reason for us to panic (yet). Fucking hypocrits.

dude i lived in a comunist country where we had only 2 hours of tv a day,and only the public channel.we were kept in the dark about everything that hapened around the world and in our country.so i don't agree with this opinion,and i like different types of information,good or bad,propaganda or not.i have my own mind to make my own decisions.
and i didn't meant the collateral casualties,those exists in every war.i meant that the armys's in the western world don't go with the exact mission to kill civilians,like going in a town,get off the cars and start hiting hotels,shops,turist destinations.they go after the oposite forces,make mistakes because of false information,in the end that what hapens in wars.but this terrorists who use they religion as an excuse make me sick.they have no honour,and are very hypocrite.
it's sad cause the islamic religion is a very beautiful religion,with nice morals in it.unfortunately there are this retard fanatics who fuck everything up.just like the chrystian crusades in the dark ages when they would invade other countrys and kill and change who ever had a different belief in god.and all in the name of religion



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:45 pm
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That's why I don't like religion.

By the way, you say you have your own mind to decide. Sure, I believe you, but what about all the other millions who don't? They live on a strict diet of religion and/or propaganda. And they don't even know they're bending over and taking it up the ass, cause they have got these influences and lifestyles because they were taught such shit in their youths. They think that what they know is the only thruth, and the only one that is right.

Get them young and the possibilities are endless. The people why control with war, religion and everything that's connected to it: fear, propaganda, hatred, the differences between people. They use it to make a complete society form an enemy imagine, in order to have a strong society, something to collectively fight against. This is one of the most dangerous things. It's done with religion the most, if you look at the history of mankind. That's why I do not want to form an enemy image. I KNOW the media wants me to believe those fanatical religious terrorists are my enemy. I think they're not. I think they are under the influence by wrong information. And again, religion is the main thing that's in the way... again.

In this time, the 21st century, the last thing I need is a collective common belief, because there's a downside to it: outsiders are enemies, or at least religions form enemy images. Gay people, non-believers, people that use blasphemy, people with an other religion, they are all pointed out for you.
I think this is one of the worst inventions of mankind, EVER. It causes hate, not love. Only love towards people that look in the same direction as you, think the same way as you. In religion, you only learn how to live alongside people that believe in the same thing as you. Other people, 'outsiders', are considered bad people. I've read the bible, I've started to read the Quran, it's all in there. So far, I fucking hate these racist literature that causes seperation, instead of harmony. I hardly have good words for these creations.

Are you religious? Then you might consider me as an invader of your beliefs. If you go into defense mode, that means you show weakness. I think people should keep religion out of the way at decisions, and especially keep them to yourself, because I already know what religious answer to the things I just said: a few literal scripture quotes, not from the bottom of their heart, but words and thoughts copied from a book probably digested at childhood by either mom or dad or people around you that were already religious. It's meant to keep you in line, to control you. Now I think about it, I know some people that got religious at an older age. You know why? Cause something bad happened to them and they are looking for help; religion does that. God and Jesus will (Allah and Muhammed, whatever) help you through hard times. To me, this is not the answer. I think people that need this, are weak and easy to influence, exactly the people religion needs.

Personally, I don't believe in a world of opposites. Dark and light, good and bad, black and white, religious or not religious. These ideas are essential to creating a world of enemies, not friends. Fuck that. I don't need religion, I need truth. I can be a friend of anyone, as long as they are honest with themselves and others. So far, religious people I met are BY FAR honest. They tend to say that we are sinners and lower than god, that we are mere puppets that have to convince god that we can do good. You know, the 10 commitments? It's meant for you to feel weak, that we are nothing in the eyes of a greater force, and that you have to prove yourself worthy by living with a set of rules. In other words: by following orders of a greater force. If someone tells me I'm still a sinner, according to their personal beliefs (whatever you call personal, they didn't got that from themselves anyway) I feel strong enough to defend myself towards their dangerous ideas, and tell them they are narrowminded to base their judgment on one book only, with all do respect, I think they don't think outside the box.

I need the whole truth. IF religion gives at least some truth, it's definetly not the only truth. You have to look outside the borders of religion in order to have harmony with outsiders. You also got to listen to the people you disagree with. Not necessarily agree with them, but just listen, with respect. This would prevent some unneeded hate towards eachother.

I think: 'Pushing little children with their fully automatics, they like to push the weak around' perfectly fits the point I try to make with this post, it's your own signature. :wink:

*Rant button about religion off.*

Don't worry, no offence meant. It's just what I think. You can disagree, sure, but that doesn't mean I am completely wrong. :bigthumb:


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