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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:56 pm
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While I'd love to start a billion paged rant about this shit. I'm more or less in a questioning mode. Anyone here specialising in politics, or militarianism?

I am curious about North Korea, a place 2 of my grandfathers faught a war in, as well as my father being stationed along the DMZ line in a tank unit. These days I keep hearing in the news about sanctions, sanctions, sanctions. Obviously this means fuck all, or atleast to the general populace. When anyone hears sanctions we think fuck it, who cares. What do sanctions actually do besides being part of a front paged header for a Newspaper? N. Korea exploded a nuclear device underground recently and the world, China and Russia included, went berserk. Now nothing is being said about it. A couple of weeks pass and nobody cares anymore. Two of the 3 biggest superpowers in the world that are allied with N. Korea freak out and now are ok again? And what of them firing of short ranged missiles the next day, and now being seen importing a long ranged ICMB, capable of carrying a nuclear warhead into Europe and extreme western parts of America? Everyone is shut up these days about it.

I used to be a child obsessed with the awesome power of nuclear weapons and how much power they could manage. I never wanted to see them used against humans or anything ever again. I had always hoped USA and Russia would disarm, until I learned China and other nations were growing their stockpile like the old skool Cold War Days. The US and Russia have enough munitions to blow up the world several times over. Where does it stop? You constantly hear about disarming, but Russia and the US have so much it doesn't matter if they disarm, they have thousands more nuclear ICBMs with mirv tips, capable of torching dozens of cities with one missile. Now Iran is being put back into perspective these days as being one of the sellers of missile technology for North Korea, as well as expansion nuclear means to other nations like Syria and the like. While I'm no arguer for nuclear energy, I am an arguer for nuclear weaponry. It doesn't take but a few simple tasks to make the simplest one into a horrible one.

Russia and the US may be ok, they are technologically advanced compared to Iran and North Korea, but the fright of anyone could carry this shit on their backs even as a suicide mission, makes me very peculiar. I think that's the goal, to scare, but why do that? Who wants to stop the world in their tracks enough to stop everyone from going anywhere? Nobody could have this much of a problem with the world than one unnamed country, and they aren't even threatening to nuke anyone!

Ok... rant out for now lol sorry. Just had to get that off my chest. I feel better now I really do haha


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Personally, I think the countries in the area need to step it up a notch.

I mean it is really directly a threat to Europe, and it seems that America isn't doing as much as it should to make an impact on N. Korea and Iran's judgement. But really how much can America do?

It seems everytime we try to do something to stop the development of weapons with force the people who are actually in danger talk sh!t about it.

Not trying to be political but seriously, you can't defend America in the policies and then condemn them for the purpose of public opinion.

I want to be clear though. I personaly think the subject is complicated and that is why there is so much confusion. Every country has problems with their policy in dealing with the threats we all face. But the threat is more to the people who live on that side of the world, and those on the other side of the world seem to be paying more debt in lives and money.

And then when it comes down to it people become smug on both sides of the world and think this is just a joke. People are constantly in danger. The real enemy isn't religion or the religious people. The realy problem is the explosion of innocent people. The real problem is hunger, be it for a state or for food, or for the ego of those who strap bombs to their chest.

The real solution may be to fix these problems by charity, but it seems dignity is more important when it comes to destruction than survival...

I dunno maybe I am ranting, I am drunk.



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:50 am
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I'd love to play armchair military strategist/political adviser on this but I really only hope things get resolved with no fighting or war. Especially since America is giving S. Korea our word that we'll step in and defend should N. Korea start fighting.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:41 pm
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oh great just what the world needs.another war with america in it.the only reason why shit escalates is because some countrys don't know when to mind their own bussines



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:59 pm
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why dont u ppl go out and drink, then fuk smth gooood okkkkkkkkkk



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:02 pm
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gava wrote:
why dont u ppl go out and drink, then fuk smth gooood okkkkkkkkkk


hes got the right idea. party while the walls are still standing, and then party harder when they fall and chaos rises.


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Mike Skinner said it best................

"Imagine the world's leaders on pills"

Problem sorted. Get everyone fucked off their face on Grade A MDMA.



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:20 pm
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*PinHead* wrote:
oh great just what the world needs.another war with america in it.the only reason why shit escalates is because some countrys don't know when to mind their own bussines


I think us stepping in to help S. Korea is vastly different from the US fucking things up in Iraq. It's not America invading N. Korea, its America helping another country defend itself. Regardles, let's hope it doesn't come to that.


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Manny wrote:
*PinHead* wrote:
oh great just what the world needs.another war with america in it.the only reason why shit escalates is because some countrys don't know when to mind their own bussines


I think us stepping in to help S. Korea is vastly different from the US fucking things up in Iraq. It's not America invading N. Korea, its America helping another country defend itself. Regardles, let's hope it doesn't come to that.


You know if that happens we're almost guaranteed a remake of M*A*S*H :rofl:



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:48 pm
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Manny wrote:
*PinHead* wrote:
oh great just what the world needs.another war with america in it.the only reason why shit escalates is because some countrys don't know when to mind their own bussines


I think us stepping in to help S. Korea is vastly different from the US fucking things up in Iraq. It's not America invading N. Korea, its America helping another country defend itself. Regardles, let's hope it doesn't come to that.

then i want the us to step in to congo and stop the killings there or to stop the war in burma and the genocides happening there for entire decades.i mean if the US is entirely about helping defendless people.
the idea is that america only goes to war when it fit's it's own interests(mostly the goverment's interests i mean and the large corporations,not the regular american person).and by doing that it only creates a lot of chaos and problems.these north coreeans wouldn't have made nuclear bombs if they didn't felt the threat of a US military strike.they are just doing this to have the same military power as their enemies,and as long as people stay chilled nothing will happen.



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no offence to those other countries but the usa shouldn't have to be sorting everyone elses problems out, this might sound a little stupid but if the us is to save everyones ass it should be them only that get access to nuclear weapons of any type.



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:29 pm
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Say you got guns but you ain\t seen mine, Alwaays outnumbered but we are looking fine its NUCLEAR



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*PinHead* wrote:
Manny wrote:
*PinHead* wrote:
oh great just what the world needs.another war with america in it.the only reason why shit escalates is because some countrys don't know when to mind their own bussines


I think us stepping in to help S. Korea is vastly different from the US fucking things up in Iraq. It's not America invading N. Korea, its America helping another country defend itself. Regardles, let's hope it doesn't come to that.

then i want the us to step in to congo and stop the killings there or to stop the war in burma and the genocides happening there for entire decades.i mean if the US is entirely about helping defendless people.
the idea is that america only goes to war when it fit's it's own interests(mostly the goverment's interests i mean and the large corporations,not the regular american person).and by doing that it only creates a lot of chaos and problems.these north coreeans wouldn't have made nuclear bombs if they didn't felt the threat of a US military strike.they are just doing this to have the same military power as their enemies,and as long as people stay chilled nothing will happen.


Because then we'd have this.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:26 pm
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What the fuck does America gain by stopping North Korea. Outside of the fact they're building weapons to threaten Japan and U.S. No, Let's leave them alone. so they can fucking nuke half of Asia for whatever. Get cancer and die Kim fag. The world will be better without you. To bad your mother didn't get it before you were born. Better yet let's fight. Meet at the corner of Maple and Grand River , MI and I'll nuke ur face and skull fuck you eye socket w/ my big 16 inch dildo... :roll:



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