jonyintheplace wrote:
so guys, your point is that I cannot say that I FUCKIN LIKE MOST OF NT BUT I CONSIDER FFWF (aka fight cocks with big cocks) a terrible mistake that should be banned by the United Nations?

then @paradox wrote

Would you like some coaching into the world of punk vocals? You'd be delighted to find out that after you understand punk culture (which The Prodigy are a part of) you will begin to understand (and thoroughly enjoy) the moaning quality of punk vocals. If you wish to proceed with learning you are most welcome to ask for guidance. FFWF is a tip-top Prodge track. Have a nice day.

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what is the point for writing such an arrogant, cocky and condescending reply? I mean, you do not have any idea about my musical background, whether I like classic punk rock albums or not, all you tried to do here was to attack me trying to mock me because I just don't like FFWF (aka FCWC). Really, you can put the coaching part of your text in your culo.

have a nice day as well.

Herein lies the problem. Those of us who call this album out get lambasted by those who (think they) like it. And I guess that's kinda fair enough.

I too have no desire to insult anyone, and haven't. I just can't get my head around how much of a dip No Tourists is compared with the other 6.

It grew on me for a day or so when I tried to persuade myself that it was better than it was, but I'm done doing that. It's just not good!

PS no hard feelings with anyone. Truly. I just wish I shared your enthusiasm for this album!

I don't think that the majority truly believes "No tourists" (or the two albums before it) to be up to the usual quality. They're just exited and there is nothing wrong with that cause it's a good album. You just have to keep in mind two things:
1) It's etxremely hard if not impossible (for a legendary live dance project/band) to be groundbreaking all the time). It's just not realistic to expect something like that.
2) The today standards of the electronic scene.

Well i dont mind negative reviews but negative people usually call other people name on the forums or has to call the album bad names, it looks almost as if these people are paid to talk down to them.

Otherwise, as long as its reasonable, i dont look down at posts.

I myself dislike the AONO album, the album which has 12 tracks but only 2 i can dance to, excluding b-sides. Others likes it. I think Piranha and Worlds on Fire are boring for my taste, other likes it.

I love Give me a Signal, others hates it.

If i could rank each album including the b-sides, it would be from worst to best:

7. AONO. 6. Invaders must Die. 5. The day is my Enemy. 4. Fat of the Land. 3. No Tourists. 2. Experience. 1. Jilted.

I guess i trigger people with my opinion but i cant help that my brain likes the album this way, i shouldnt lie to make everyone happy. But yeah unlike some of this forum, i dont say Liam to quit making music or call the Prodigy bad words because they dont release the music i want, i just accept thats how they like it and hopefully they go back to making another album that i love. Honestly, someone who tells their fav band to quit are not fans, they are propably paid to talk down to people, like some people reviewing albums, which is why i never trust critics unless i know for sure that they arent getting paid to talk down or love something.

I don't think he meant it that way. Anyway....
I'll agree with you about the vocals...in this specific case the punk-card sounds like a cheap exucse to me.
The vocals are mediocre to bad. There is not a "theatrical" character nor a decent aggressive colour in them and the lyrics are meh. This part of the tune feels very cheap.

Sorry your battered defensive interpretation clouds my altruistic intentions. Let me make what I said clear: If you're having trouble discerning why people enjoy this tune (even rating it a 10 repeatedly) you could try to see it in a new light, perhaps by listening to it bearing in mind (new) understanding of proper British Punk culture. I would share the opinions of the moaners about this tune if I wouldn't have this add-on of understanding. See below in bold.

Of course I didn't mean it that way, we're all friends here.

Here's some advice, listen to the Sex Pistols - Nevermind the Bollocks from start to finish and try to understand why people enjoy those 'dreadful' vocals. Then return to Fight Fire with Fire.

See you on the other side.

i know barky dogs wont care...but after all i must say "boom boom tap" motivates me to bite through some necks...
Be careful on the streets while listening other songs via your dre earbuds...i will hunt you down

I already have many times
...and i still think it's nowhere near for the reasons i mentioned in a previous post.

Exactly. Punk is supposed to be dirty and gritty, which is exactly what this track is. Well that with hiphop beats. It's electro-punk-hop. I just made that up, but someone else probably already did.
I don't see the point of constant arguing about not liking some track. It's not gonna make that track better for the haters and the lovers will just dismiss it as childish trolling.
By the way ParaDox, when did you decide to join The Horde?

Oh, wow!

https://theprodigy.tmstor.es/cart/product.php?id=40528

Just ordered one

I'm going to see them at Birmingham on Saturday... Praying that the setlist is not set to be the same every night

Quoted for truth.

You mean The Horde in WoW or what?

It seems you don't understand when you write something that comes off like you are above everyone else and insulting and bashing people's tastes. Then when someone feels insulted by your insulting remark and responds, you're like "Why are you angry and attacking me?" Then you tell everyone how your standards are just higher than theirs.



And here, you do it once again. They think they like it? What are you trying to say here? That people are lying to themselves that they like the album, but don't really?

If you can't understand how your comment was insulting to fans who like the album, then that is on you. Once again, you bash people.

THIS is why the haters get lambasted because many of their posts always have that condescending tone or sentence that knocks those who like the album.