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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:09 pm
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The Glitch Mob is recorded on a crappy cell/handheld camera so to completely dismiss it without a proper listen is foolish

Wasn't expecting them to go all housey

Honestly, at least they are offering the remixes separately as a vinyl and for digital download so you're not forced to have to buy the whole album over again. So they're not being complete twats about it. Folks with have the option to grab the mixes on their own and not shell out the cash to re-buy the album.

and we get it, Nightmare...
you think the mixes are crap cuz you don't like dubstep
we got it already
but you're 1 vs a 1,000,000

i actually am enjoying and surprised at the quality of the mixes
they're trying to reintroduce the album to the current generation of electronic music lovers with genres that are quite popular worldwide. and i'm enjoying these mixes more than any early FotL shitty mixes were at the time.

it wasn't until some AONO, but mostly IMD that they actually had good people remixing their tracks. all the earlier remixes were quite shit for me.

people are mad because they hate the people who are remixing on this... but there are plenty of people who love these artists and will rediscover a great album when they pick it up.

i find this release more about getting a new generation into the album than pleasing the old fans.

as you say, you already own the album and don't want shitty remixes because you hate this type of music so much... this isn't about your taste. it's about bringing this album to new fans who are part of what is popular at the moment.

i honestly think these mixes are far better than any of the official mixes when the album was actually first released back in the day.

so honestly, i don't believe the idea was to please old fans because they knew you already own everything by them

this is about getting new fans aware of the album it seems
and people need to get over being butthurt about their hatred for dubstep and what's popular now... unfortunately there a million more people who feel the opposite than how you feel toward the current state of electronic music.

plus they are focused on writing a new album and don't think Liam is gonna take the time and go backwards by finding old tracks that he's gonna have mix as an extra bonus. it sucks, but i don't think they wanna focus on the past at the moment.

maybe the 20 year anniversay we'll get something or when The Prodigy fully own the rights of it, but for now this is all XL's doing

they re-released a lot of their back catalog and most of them had absolutely NO EXTRAS... so think about that.



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:43 pm
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@Nightmare - calling fans or whoever buying this ep idiots kind of makes you an idiot. if people like the remixes, they'll buy it. why the fuck not. and if the re-issue will bring the prodigy new fans, cool.

I'm not happy with the release either, seems really lazy and stupid with such a masterpiece that is Fat Of The Land, but having new remixes, some of them good, is a great thing. liking the mindfields remix so far.. need to hear it in good quality. that breathe remix seemed more like "yeaaah check this I like took the main sample and like yeah added some fukin club beat to it and some bass yeah". I think the electronic music today is so different to what it was in the 90s that it's so difficult to get decent remixes of tracks by the prodigy. I wish they'd let like a jazz artist or some indie band to remix their tracks. or covers or whatever... would be more exciting imo.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:00 pm
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NEOREV wrote:
It's about bringing this album to new fans who are part of what is popular at the moment.


And this is wrong way i think ;) Sorry Mate but this second part og this sentence sounds like you're describing yourself.

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@Nightmare - calling fans or whoever buying this ep idiots kind of makes you an idiot. if people like the remixes, they'll buy it. why the fuck not. and if the re-issue will bring the prodigy new fans, cool.


But more people are dissapointed about these remixes i think. The Prodigy should bring new fans by new stuff or reissue with bonus, live and unreleased stuff... not by poor, weak and shitty remixes made by other artists...


I think this release is more by XL than Liam, Keith & Maxim.



Whatever shit they will put to the reissue some fans will buy it because? Because it's from "The Prodigy" what is pathetic or they just like this kind of remixes which are made in the popular, commercial genre. Ehh don't want to discuss about this because there is no sense.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:12 pm
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Nightmare wrote:
NEOREV wrote:
It's about bringing this album to new fans who are part of what is popular at the moment.


And this is wrong way i think ;) Sorry Mate but this second part og this sentence sounds like you're describing yourself.


Describing myself?
I've been a fan of The Prodigy since '93
so that doesn't make any sense at all

XL's goal is purely to cash in on getting new fans lured by current popular producers being on the release and this release is not focusing on current fans.

The point being it's a reissue... so obviously none of us would be buying it if it was simply just the album.

And if new people today haven't already bought the album, which is still readily available in all my local shops, they're still not gonna but it if it was simply a reissue. This is purely just to entice the current generation of electronic music lovers to pick up the album by seeing current producers attached to it plain and simple.

I really don't think fans were considered at all when putting this together. Or else they would have followed in the steps of Experience and Jilted expanded editions, which were more for actual fans since it includes rarities. Newcomers buying the album aren't gonna give a shit about rarities and it'll give XL the ability to triple dip with the hardcore fans if they ever do a proper re-release with bonus material. Look at the two Experience remastered/expanded editions and that was all for 2 measly tracks... only 1 being an actual rarity and the other just a live tune.

so i expect 5 years from now we'll get something again because they now know they sucked in new fans into rebuying it and will get the older, dedicated fans on the next round.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:13 pm
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NEOREV wrote:
and we get it, Nightmare...
you think the mixes are crap cuz you don't like dubstep
we got it already
but you're 1 vs a 1,000,000

2 vs 1,000,000 :wink:
@NEOREV - same thing i say on the other page



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NEOREV wrote:
and we get it, Nightmare...
you think the mixes are crap cuz you don't like dubstep
we got it already
but you're 1 vs a 1,000,000


And I'm proud of it ;) I don't want to be in the group who likes just everything. I love real electronic music, unique electronic music and that is why i love The Prodigy, Amon Tobin, Boards Of Canada, Squarepusher, Orbital, Depeche Mode, Aphex Twin, Chris Clark etc. - they are unique and there is no other artist with the same music. Remixes on Added Fat EP are like most of the tracks that sound the same and are not unique and an example is almost everything from the dubstep genre. As i said before I don't want to discuss about this reissue and dubstep gerne etc. because there is no sense so:

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:39 pm
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Nightmare wrote:
memphis wrote:
@Nightmare - calling fans or whoever buying this ep idiots kind of makes you an idiot. if people like the remixes, they'll buy it. why the fuck not. and if the re-issue will bring the prodigy new fans, cool.


But more people are dissapointed about these remixes i think. The Prodigy should bring new fans by new stuff or reissue with bonus, live and unreleased stuff... not by poor, weak and shitty remixes made by other artists...

The first band I listened to seriously was Linkin Park. Now I consider them shit and am ashamed of that fact but back then they seemed to me at least better than the other shit in the radio. You know, it was difficult to hear The Prodigy in a Polish radio at the time I actually started to listen to music. Does the fact where I started say much about where I ended? I think that the fact that shitty remixes bring more people to GOOD music, is good. It's nice to think someone new might find out about the "true" electronic music through this release. I'm not sure why you oppose.

And although we think here these remixes mostly suck (I still love Noisia's one and Baauer might turn out cool too), I guess the fans of these bands will love it. By coincidence (while random googling for any track snippets... as you saw I actually found some :P) I had read a thread about this release on some Skrillex forums. With each new confirmed artist for this release, they were like "omg that's unbelievable!", "omg even better!"... well, let's say I'm happy while they are, and at the same time I envy them because I know my favourite artists aren't going to give me any new tracks soon :(


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in all fairness linkin parks first two albums were really good then after that they went crap so i wouldnt call it crap muisc just a case of the band getting softer and softer and more radio friendly hwihc i fin dvery disappointing but i see your point


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am i the only one who dont give a fuck about this XL release and waiting for some new shit ?



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Saq wrote:
am i the only one who dont give a fuck about this XL release and waiting for some new shit ?


I'm waiting for: new ep, new album, new tracks, new era, new decorations & lights etc. Don't care about this shitty The Fat Of The Land Reissue...


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^^^
back again to bash the reissue?
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Nightmare wrote:
Saq wrote:
am i the only one who dont give a fuck about this XL release and waiting for some new shit ?


I'm waiting for: new ep, new album, new tracks, new era, new decorations & lights etc. Don't care about this shitty The Fat Of The Land Reissue...


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I don´t know if those remixes will bring NEW fans to or more into the Prodigy .... Prodigy is famous and not underground and known well enough in the electronic dance music scene also these days - it doesn´t matter if it´s the old or the new generation of electronic music.

If you don´t care about electronic music, you don´t care about prodigy, also you don´t care about dubstep and all the other new styles electronic music has.

So for me there´s no discussion about it - I think this release will not be a good seller, cos imo there were more prodigy fans worldwide that are hungry for more other unreleased prodigy material and still disappointed about this re-release than people who likes electronic music but never heared of the prodigy before.

I will buy this release - but only for the noisia remix and for my collection, that´s it and I still hope there are more good remixes on it ...

Also the fact a lot of people knowing prodigy tracks and if they listen to these remixes, they tend to have the same opinion like the prodigy fans .... those remixes mostly are shit or needless ...



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Flachcracker wrote:
If you don´t care about electronic music, you don´t care about prodigy, also you don´t care about dubstep and all the other new styles electronic music has.


I CARE about prodigy B U T I DON'T care about dubstep. Sorry but this is true



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