+1

he ain't no tourist liker

The album is awesome, not a bad track. The touch with "beyond a deathray" as a breather is nice. Sure all albums more or less had it but its better cause it is almost a weather experience part 2. Anyways I have a question does anybody know who sings on Medicine it just says "Vocals by YT and Maxim" I still wonder why that is because Martina Topley-Bird is also listed as "MTB" contractual reasons maybe? Anyways does anybody know who this "YT" is?

I see your point and I raise you a new one. As if this band needs more definition.

I look at it more of as an arc. He started in hip hop (Cut 2 Kill), went to rave (Experience), continued with breakbeat and slabs of techno here and there (MFTJG), moved onto big beat (FOTL), strayed into electro (AONO), tried to combine all of it in IMD and now he's sort of made it to, I dunno, a live band with hints of punk. It's a good career to have, no matter what anyone says.

Thanks for reminding me about that previous tracklist, some of the songs go well together from that. Rebel Radio goes into Medicine really nice and from there Nasty and Wall of Death go together excellent. ALSO there's been talk about how TDIME sounds like it should have ROTE after it. I combined both tracks into one MEGA tune and if you want it PM me. Here's the early tracklist that got leaked on January 5th
REBEL RADIO
1) Beyond the deathray
2) Destroy
3) Wild frontier
4) Rebel radio
5) Medicine
6) Nasty Nasty
7) Wall of death
8) I need a rhythm
9) Get UR fight on
10) Rock-Weiler
11) Road Blocks
12) Rise of the eagles
13) Ibiza…. Blaaaa
TDIME and Invisible Sun are missing.

Flame me all you want, call me a troll, whatever... I don't care. This is my 100% honest opinion and I'm entitled to it.

The whole album stinks. It's the musical equivalent of a new Ghostbusters film being announced with an all female cast. Frankly, it's a fucking embarrassment and a massive shitty blot on The Prodigy's largely impressive discography. I thought Invaders Must Die was bad but fuck me, this is plumbing new depths and it's the sound of an out of touch, once fantastic and genius producer running out of ideas. The over compression, weak beat structure, screechy synths and piss poor lyrics equate to a complete shambles of an album.

"Listen to it 300 more times!", "It'll be a banger live!", "Listen to it in FLAC or 24 bit lossless blah blah blah (stfu NEOREV, we get the point)!". All these statements mean NOTHING when the actual music on offer is so dreadful. You can't polish a turd. Compare the production or ideas on offer in any of these tunes next to current and relevant artists like Randomer, Tessela or Dosage and it's blatantly obvious that Liam should call it a day after this album and undoubted 4 year tour that will surely follow.

I am, or more likely was, a massive fan of the band. They meant so much to me as a teenager and were responsible for my love of dance music and have given me a lot to discuss with friends both new and old, but this is no longer the band I fell in love with. I get the point that times change, and that artists move on, but that should not negate the fact that the music should still be good. AONO was a massive departure from FOTL, and at the time I was completely dumbfounded by the change in direction but I knew the tunes on offer were still of a decent quality. It was a fucking relief to know that Keith wasn't doing his usual "I'm a mad cunt, me" crap on any of it. Firestarter, as much of a cultural and musical behemoth that it is, was unfortunately the beginning of the downfall of this band. It pushed a talentless individual to the forefront and detracted from what was good about The Prodigy. See Baby's Got A Temper for evidence. Why do you think Liam and Keith didn't speak for such a long time? Liam was SEETHING that Keith was essentially what the general public saw as The Prodigy. However over time he realised that Keith was still needed in order for him to continue to milk this now highly profitable cash cow.

I fully expect people to be upset by what I have said but it is my personal opinion. I'm truly happy that a lot of you are over the moon with this but I'm genuinely upset with this deterioration into awfulness and I need a place to vent. Fucking hell, I can't even consider this album mediocre, it's ABYSMAL.

i dont care if you like the album or not.

but slagging off the new ghostbusters film just because there's mostly WIMMIN in it?

lol.

thanks for clearing that up...

Dont you have a gf? , a friend? even a dog you can share your opinion with? Someone who will put his loving paw on your shoulder and understand your pain for failing to troll us...

Come on people. Boring to read pages of fighting and insulting over differing opinions on the album. Let's keept it cool, aight?

I'm happy Cabalist's post telling me to shut the fuck up out of nowhere remains while all of my responses were deleted.
Especially his post complaining that he is being attacked for his opinion while in the same post stating he has a right to give his opinion on my "shit taste is music."
This dude is just a troll.

This has nothing to do with opinions, this is about folks like Cabalist being cunts to people on here.

I agree about the 24 bit part. I liked most of the tracks in shitty quality because the ideas appealed to me, but if you don't like the tracks like that then listening to them on thousands of dollars worth of equipment is simply not worth it and is actually forcing them down your throat. So, any decent audio eq should be sufficient to like/dislike the tracks. Cabalist simply doesn't like the tracks and it's not because the are not in flac 24 bit and god knows what else. So, Cabalist listen to the previous albums that you enjoyed so far, simple as that.

Oh, dear. Factually incorrect on so many levels.

Let's start with AONO's tunes 'being of decent quality.' Three songs were - at a push - 'decent' Prodigy tunes: Wake Up; Spitfire; Girls. The rest of the album represents some of the most bland and uninspiring Prodigy music of their back-catalogue (although to be fair, GUGO was a fair tune). It's at this juncture that alarm bells start to ring out loud in respect of your - ahem - analysis of the new Prodigy record.

Secondly, your narrative on Liam and Keith falling out is flawed: it had nothing to do with Liam's so-called 'jealousy' (LOL) over Keith's elevation from dancer to 'vocalist.' This betrays your own feelings about Flint - and by extension - The Prodigy post FOTL (when the band extended the vocal duties of both Maxim and Keith). If you know anything at all about the history of The Prodigy, you will know that Howlett saw Firestarter (and Flint's performance) as a 'springboard' for the band. There was no jealousy. Gratitude, if anything. A chance to progress - to take the band (in Howlett's words) to the 'next level.' It appears that the last album from The Prodigy that would have satisfied YOUR own criteria (not having the 'talentless' Keith Flint anywhere on a Prodigy album) would have been MFTJG or AONO. Meaning (by your own criteria - the criteria I have quoted above) TFOTL (where Flint appeared on four out of the 10 tracks - 40% of the album) was an abject failure. That's where your 'argument' ends. Right there. If the last acceptable Prodigy album was 2004 (by your own criteria) and TFOTL was an abject failure, then why even listen to the Prodigy's new album? Didn't you know that Flint would be on the album? Have you read any interviews? Don't you even know what the mindset of the band is?

Your analysis is one of the most embittered, blinkered, incomprehensible comments I have ever read - and on this forum, that takes some doing.

TDIME is one of the most complete and satisfying Prodigy albums I have ever heard. I do, however, share your sense of shock - not because they made a bad album - but because they actually made an album which I view as better than TFOTL and only marginally (and this could be subject to change) below MFTJG - simply because that album in my eyes was a watersehd moment for that band - and I can't quite usurp that album so early in the listening process of TDIME. I honestly didn't think Howlett had it in him. One of his best pieces of work. Balanced, well-produced, hard-hitting, a perfect composition of both guitar and electronics, and easily the most consistent array of tracks on any of his album. I like more songs on this album than on any other. The vocals on the album - especially Rebel Radio - are perfectly utilised and some of the other vocal samples (the trippy voice in Radio Rebel that 'whoohes' in during the high-pitched siren sounds - or the 'violent, violent...' sample in GYFO - or the 'woooooo' sample on WOD) are markedly superior than recent Prodigy albums.

TDIME completely annihilates IMD and AONO - I don't think there is any real debate there at all.

The only debate is the ranking against TFOTL and MFTJG.

Me?

1) MFTGJ
2) TDIME
3) TFOTL

Haha Cabalist. I like the way you spoke about Firestarter, but didnt Liam say that the bandfight started with other people wanting to change the band?

But man such anger. Well, this album is not for anyone. Some people might like it, others that dont prefer this kind of music will find it shit. Look at the reviews, big score for the ones who kind of like the taste, minus score for those who dont.

Sad that you dont like it. Well theres still hope for you, maybe the next album will be for you, so dont give up. No mather how much the Prodigy change i will still love them.

The point is no one said the album was going to be better in 24 bit.
No one was even talking to Cabalist about 24 bit.
My last comment was to triggernuclear who I was trying to find out if he was listening to the original crappy iTunes stream leak or the CD FLAC rip.
People were complaining about the vocals being lost in the mix, but that was because of the quality of the original leak.
So I suggested triggernuclear listen to the pro CD rip for a proper experience, the CD rip sounds a million times better

Apparently Cabalist is mad Liam doesn't sound like modern producers he listed
Which is confusing because I thought we wanted Liam to sound like The Prodigy?
Not some generic modern electronic music producers like Randomer, Tesella, or Dosage