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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:02 am
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NEOREV wrote:
Plain_John wrote:
I agree about the 24 bit part. I liked most of the tracks in shitty quality because the ideas appealed to me, but if you don't like the tracks like that then listening to them on thousands of dollars worth of equipment is simply not worth it and is actually forcing them down your throat. So, any decent audio eq should be sufficient to like/dislike the tracks. Cabalist simply doesn't like the tracks and it's not because the are not in flac 24 bit and god knows what else. So, Cabalist listen to the previous albums that you enjoyed so far, simple as that.


The point is no one said the album was going to be better in 24 bit.
No one was even talking to Cabalist about 24 bit.
My last comment was to triggernuclear who I was trying to find out if he was listening to the original crappy iTunes stream leak or the CD FLAC rip.
People were complaining about the vocals being lost in the mix, but that was because of the quality of the original leak.
So I suggested triggernuclear listen to the pro CD rip for a proper experience, the CD rip sounds a million times better

You don't remember (but you can refresh your memory by browsing the other threads) that you almost replied to almost anyone who was complaining about the tracks to listen to them in 24 bit and it's not just nucleartrigger. Simply not the case. Every other comment from you is about the audio quality, that's fine. But when I start to read them :roll: I'm like man, I don't have those headphones or that gear, I have my shitty speakers and they are doing a fine job for me to KNOW if like the tracks or not. For example GYFO is shit simply because Liam was fucking lazy, it should of been a B-side. Maybe Cabalist doesn't like that, just like me. Listening now to Medicine, love the track.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:15 am
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NEOREV wrote:
I don't think the new records need to bring anything new to the table.
I think all of the records up until Invaders Must Die was Liam trying to find his own voice.
We finally got that with The Day Is My Enemy.

Experience was Liam reacting to the warehouse rave and breaks of the early 90's
Jilted was his reaction to progressive house taken over the scene, more 4 on the floors and tracks lasting for several minutes
Fat Of The Land was Liam going back to his sample/hip hop roots
AONO was Liam looking back and bringing all of his inspirations together that he had grown up on
IMD was the band being a band again, all of their personalities coming together and The Prodigy finally being The Prodigy.
TDIME is The Prodigy... everything about Liam and the band rolled up all into one.

We already got all of the different facets of Liam's musical personality.

TDIME is The Prodigy

I don't understand people needing Liam to completely reinvent himself with the new album.
The previous albums weren't really Liam reinventing himself, but just exploring different sides to his own musical tastes.

Liam has explored all of the different musical avenues that he's grown up on, loved, and experienced.
I think people are completely missing the point bashing this because it's not some new sound.
Liam is in his 40's now, he is who he is, and TDIME is the best representation of that.

This is why he says it's his most consistent record and his personal best record.

This album is the accumulation of The Prodigy sound all in one record.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:16 am
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Plain_John wrote:
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I agree about the 24 bit part. I liked most of the tracks in shitty quality because the ideas appealed to me, but if you don't like the tracks like that then listening to them on thousands of dollars worth of equipment is simply not worth it and is actually forcing them down your throat. So, any decent audio eq should be sufficient to like/dislike the tracks. Cabalist simply doesn't like the tracks and it's not because the are not in flac 24 bit and god knows what else. So, Cabalist listen to the previous albums that you enjoyed so far, simple as that.


The point is no one said the album was going to be better in 24 bit.
No one was even talking to Cabalist about 24 bit.
My last comment was to triggernuclear who I was trying to find out if he was listening to the original crappy iTunes stream leak or the CD FLAC rip.
People were complaining about the vocals being lost in the mix, but that was because of the quality of the original leak.
So I suggested triggernuclear listen to the pro CD rip for a proper experience, the CD rip sounds a million times better

You don't remember (but you can refresh your memory by browsing the other threads) that you almost replied to almost anyone who was complaining about the tracks to listen to them in 24 bit and it's not just nucleartrigger. Simply not the case. Every other comment from you is about the audio quality, that's fine. But when I start to read them :roll: I'm like man, I don't have those headphones or that gear, I have my shitty speakers and they are doing a fine job for me to KNOW if like the tracks or not. For example GYFO is shit simply because Liam was fucking lazy, it should of been a B-side. Maybe Cabalist doesn't like that, just like me. Listening now to Medicine, love the track.


I only brought up audio quality because most people didn't realize the leak was from a downgraded radio stream quality.
So it seems unfair to bashing mix levels and production without hearing a release properly.
Sure, lossless won't make a better album but at least it will sound better...
Shit quality can take a listener out of the mood just you can be taken out of a movie if it had shitty effects or looked like it was filmed on shitty home video camera.
And many people here were completely new in regards to lossless, which is disheartening as a music producer and music lover.
You don't need some crazy set up or headphones to experience the benefits of lossless... sure, it helps.
But I use my crappy $50 laptop speaker setup and you can still hear a difference.
I can hear the difference in my car's stock stereo and speakers.
I don't understand why someone would take such offense to being suggested that they should listen to an album properly before smashing it.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:23 am
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And I'm sure most people here have moved to HD TVs and watching Blu-rays...
Why is suggesting listening to lossless so offensive?
Why is putting the same effort into your music experience such a bad thing?
You might as well be listening to music on tape cassette with your Sony Walkmen while we're at it if we're gonna stick with MP3.
Upgrading your TV experience is more expensive and requires more effort... why are we still listening to music in this prehistoric format?

It's like...
Here experience this movie on high def bluray... no I rather watch it on VHS (then you complain the movie looked like shit)
Here connect with the internet faster with fiber optic cable... no I rather use dial up modem (then you complain the internet is too slow)
Here connect to the world with this cell phone... no I would rather use this rotary phone (then you complain it takes too long to dial)
Here listen to the album in the quality as it was recorded in the studio... nah let's play it on this gramophone (then you complain the mix sounds like shit)



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:39 am
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NEOREV wrote:
And I'm sure most people here have moved to HD TVs and watching Blu-rays...
Why is suggesting listening to lossless so offensive?
Why is putting the same effort into your music experience such a bad thing?
You might as well be listening to music on tape cassette with your Sony Walkmen while we're at it if we're gonna stick with MP3.
Upgrading your TV experience is more expensive and requires more effort... why are we still listening to music in this prehistoric format?

It's like...
Here experience this movie on high def bluray... no I rather watch it on VHS
Here connect with the internet faster with fiber optic cable... no I rather use dial up modem
Here connect to the world with this cell phone... no I would rather use this rotary phone
Here listen to the album in the quality as it was recorded in the studio... nah let's play it on this gramophone

The suggestion becomes offensive when the man is saying to you that he thinks the album is shit and people tell him to get flac and high definition speakers. There's a reason why he thinks it's shit. I have my own reasons why I think Rhythm Bomb is shit and reasons why I think Rebel Radio is great. And for some people buying new audio eq is not always a question of preference but rather economic or of other priorities.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:41 am
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completely disagree with cabalist. AONO was a huge setback (phoenix for example isn't a prodigy track). it was basically dirtchamber nr2. it's the only prodigy album that i don't know the exact track order. that's how little i cared for it. IMD was way better even though it was kinda riding that old-school-rave-experience revival thing, there's no hiding it. but some of the tracks on imd are level with fotl tracks (not naming because it would skyrocket off topic). TDIME is an excellent album and for my standards it's comparable to MFTJG and FOTL. it is difficult to rate them because they're 20 years apart. 20 years. things change mate and yes it hurts but there's nothing to be done about it. let me ask you one thing - liam is the creative genius of the band, but can you 'feel' the difference of the albums where leeroy was still in the band? did liam have leeroy's involvement in the band in mind when writing MFTJG and FOTL? i say he did. and there is no leeroy anymore. there's 20 years and a man short from the glory days of the first two albums. i hope you will still give this album a chance and if not i think it's your loss. i for example know a lot of people who regained faith in this band after listening to the new album.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:50 am
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(Original Mix) wrote:
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triggernuclear wrote:
FINALLY I listened the album. I don't know what should I say just after 1 listen, but it's a very good and strong album. But it's a shame that Rise is not on the album, especially in the beginning of the track it has the same helicopter sound like in the end of The Day. It means Rise is originally meant to be on the album right after The Day. Rise is one of my fav tracks from the album so I sad that it's just shit digital bonus track.
I'm a bit disappointed that the hardest tracks are The Day and WOD and no other tracks like thsese songs. Rebel Radio, Destroy are had tracks but not as complex tracks like The Day and WOD. They are a bit simple. I'm also a bit disappointed with Roadblox and Rok-weiler, I thought they are more heavy and rockier, but they are too electronic. Anyway they are good tracks.
Oh and Deathray gave me goosbumps. It's really like Omen Reprise but more darker. Invisible Sun also a great track and it's totally feels a closer track. Rhythm Bomb is better than I thought after the moaning in this forum. I like this track, it's phat!
GYFO is not bad but it's not only Hospital recycling, but WF too, I have mixed feeling about GYFO.

Maybe the album is a bit longer than needed, but it's a very massive album.

I remember Rise was in the early 13-track tracklist. Anyone has that tracklist? I want to know the Rise was after The Day or not.


The Day Is My Enemy wasn't on that tracklist. That was the tracklist for Rebel Radio, before it got renamed. Rise came after Roadblox.


Thanks for reminding me about that previous tracklist, some of the songs go well together from that. Rebel Radio goes into Medicine really nice and from there Nasty and Wall of Death go together excellent. ALSO there's been talk about how TDIME sounds like it should have ROTE after it. I combined both tracks into one MEGA tune and if you want it PM me. Here's the early tracklist that got leaked on January 5th
REBEL RADIO
1) Beyond the deathray
2) Destroy
3) Wild frontier
4) Rebel radio
5) Medicine
6) Nasty Nasty
7) Wall of death
8) I need a rhythm
9) Get UR fight on
10) Rock-Weiler
11) Road Blocks
12) Rise of the eagles
13) Ibiza…. Blaaaa
TDIME and Invisible Sun are missing.


Thank you so much for the tracklist! The new one is much better! Deathray and Ibiza as opener and closrers are not good.
And it would be a big mistake if TDMIE isn't on the album! Also IS is a good track.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:59 am
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Plain_John wrote:
NEOREV wrote:
And I'm sure most people here have moved to HD TVs and watching Blu-rays...
Why is suggesting listening to lossless so offensive?
Why is putting the same effort into your music experience such a bad thing?
You might as well be listening to music on tape cassette with your Sony Walkmen while we're at it if we're gonna stick with MP3.
Upgrading your TV experience is more expensive and requires more effort... why are we still listening to music in this prehistoric format?

It's like...
Here experience this movie on high def bluray... no I rather watch it on VHS
Here connect with the internet faster with fiber optic cable... no I rather use dial up modem
Here connect to the world with this cell phone... no I would rather use this rotary phone
Here listen to the album in the quality as it was recorded in the studio... nah let's play it on this gramophone

The suggestion becomes offensive when the man is saying to you that he thinks the album is shit and people tell him to get flac and high definition speakers. There's a reason why he thinks it's shit. I have my own reasons why I think Rhythm Bomb is shit and reasons why I think Rebel Radio is great. And for some people buying new audio eq is not always a question of preference but rather economic or of other priorities.


But no one said that to him though. That's what you're mixing up here.
No one told him that and I clearly stated you don't need to get high def equipment to enjoy lossless... sure it helps, but you can still experience the difference without all of that.
The point is no one said to Cablist that you have to listen to this in lossless.
My comments about the lossless rip of the CD out there instead of the original leak everyone has because the original leak is radio stream quality.
Tirggernuclear was complaining about the album mix and there's a huge difference between the leak and the CD rip, which is why I asked which one he was listening to.
No one ever said listening to this album in lossless is gonna make it a better album, I dont know how many times I'm gonna have to explain this.
Just that the CD rip, especially in lossless sounds a hell of a lot better than the leak.

But Cabalist said he was mad that I attacked him earlier on and then proceeded to tell me that it was ok to attack my opinion because I have "shit taste in music."
This is what the hypocritical troll said and I have the all of the deleted posts saved cuz I knew they would get deleted.
He wants you to respect his opinion while he sits there and blatantly bashes yours.
No one ever told him that he should listen to the album in lossless and that it would be better.
And if lossless was ever mentioned, it was in regards to how the original leak completely destroyed the mix due to it being a low stream quality.

It went as far as even Neil Mclellan mentioning it and tell people to listen to official audio.



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Yeah, it's funny that 1 person write a negative comment and then there will be pages of reactions. :)
Why should we care about negative comments? Personally I don't care negative comments and I don't read them, just move on.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:13 am
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triggernuclear wrote:
Yeah, it's funny that 1 person write a negative comment and then there will be pages of reactions. :)
Why should we care about negative comments? Personally I don't care negative comments and I don't read them, just move on.


I really wouldn't care... if he didnt add for me to shut the fuck up out of nowhere.
Oh, and proceeded to call my taste in music shit so that he his allowed to talk shit about me.
But that was all deleted... he really showed his true colors in those posts.
Sadly people are only seeing 10% of his twat-ness



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:23 am
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I do not want to continue anything but NEOREV is a good and cool guy,he has deep knowledge about the band and music in general.He deserves a fucking thread of his own lol.Cabalist some respect would not hurt you know.
I guess when your knowledge about music fails you,all you can do is shitalk.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:28 am
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just a thought.. i think Destroy should heave Wiley on it. Only flaw it has.... it feels empty, lack of vocals at moments, it would be a killer if it had some.



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:34 am
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Elsewhere wrote:
just a thought.. i think Destroy should heave Wiley on it. Only flaw it has.... it feels empty, lack of vocals at moments, it would be a killer if it had some.


Yeah same here, maybe not the full vocal track...
Liam should have used it more like chopped up samples.
Still love the track (especially that outro)...
But I think it would give Destroy an extra edge with some vocal samples.
Wiley had some good moments with his lyrics.



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