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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:19 pm
User avatarCaptainCaptainPosts: 611Location: IrelandJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:13 pm
I don't think its as good as Shoot Down but I like it ! Its nice to hear new material.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:11 pm
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>>>--Coggles---» wrote:
first the charly remix and now this man i think were not gonna hear any news for a long time due to this :lol:


You can have a point there mate. But I wish it could be nah true :-D



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:37 pm
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Cool to hear this version. I think it's dirtier than Shoot Down but not that different all in all. I think I like the AONO version the most but this one has some very cool elements in it too so I'm not sure yet, heh.

Good listen anyway tho'.



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:03 pm
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maybe an oasisfan or oasisforum has got a proper rip


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Ofcourse they had!
http://www.zshare.net/download/38429500b85904/

thankyou oasis forum

Nice rip 8-) Thanks. Yeah definitely like it more than Shoot Down, but not as much as Trigger. You can hear parts of the AONO Demo mix from the Their Law DVD as well.


PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:20 pm
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Formerly known as the Osaka fill



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:53 pm
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WOW !!!!

2 Days befor I asked, if it´s christmas ??? Really, it is !

I like these version, but for me it´s just only a good alternative version to Shoot Down. In my opinion Shoot Down is better, cos it sounds finished to me with more structure! But the best version should be Trigger.... to the 2 to the 3 !!!!

Thanx for the better quality rip and to mr gallagher for this gift :wink:



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:02 pm
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untitled6 wrote:
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Naaa.. Its "Guns [rough mix]", "Gun Reprise", "Memphis Bells [mix]", and an unknown song..


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:36 pm
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Liam said that the osaka fill is a reversed part of shootdown.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:27 am
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I dont care what we think it is, its raw and tough and i think with a little tweaking this should of replaced shoot down, the beats and bassline are much tougher and i love the filter effects on the intro sample and liams voice, this reminds me more of trigger and has much more energy


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:04 am
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Shoot Down was crap, but this is most excellent.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:13 am
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Trawizz wrote:
untitled6 wrote:
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Naaa.. Its "Guns [rough mix]", "Gun Reprise", "Memphis Bells [mix]", and an unknown song..


The Gun, Unknown Track (maybe - No Souvenirs :-D ), Memphis Bells (Demo Version), The Gun (Reprise)


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:26 am
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BigSugar316 wrote:
You can hear parts of the AONO Demo mix from the Their Law DVD as well.


that's what i thought



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:35 am
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you're all talking that Guns is better that Shoot Down but the truth is that both tracks are comparable. you may think that Guns is better because it's newer and it sounds fresh for us. to be honest comparing shoot down and guns is like choosing between poo and big poo: hard to say which is worst. maybe both tracks would be better if liam would test them live, like did with trigger which is my personal favourite and - i have to agree with you guys - i'd love to hear it in studio version! 8-)



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:11 am
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zbyniu wrote:
you're all talking that Guns is better that Shoot Down but the truth is that both tracks are comparable. you may think that Guns is better because it's newer and it sounds fresh for us. to be honest comparing shoot down and guns is like choosing between poo and big poo: hard to say which is worst. maybe both tracks would be better if liam would test them live, like did with trigger which is my personal favourite and - i have to agree with you guys - i'd love to hear it in studio version! 8-)

you are right zbyniu, but this is the difference beetwen live tracks and studio tracks. I want to hear all the tracks that liam played only live in studio version. this is the case of Warning too - studio version 7, live - 10+.
live give to tracks another dimesion, and you know that.
on the other hand, is there cases, and it's my opinion, when live tracks are poor than studio tracks, personal i don't like Girls and Baby's got a temper in live, maybe because is not a 10+ recording of the shows, and the studio versions sound much better than live.



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:24 am
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4ever2mind wrote:
on the other hand, is there cases, and it's my opinion, when live tracks are poor than studio tracks, personal i don't like Girls and Baby's got a temper in live, maybe because is not a 10+ recording of the shows, and the studio versions sound much better than live.

they are poor because liam didnt test them live, he didnt check which parts are good and which are not, what works and what wont; he just played studio tracks at the gig, nothing more. see dead ken beats, this track evolve during the tour, liam's adding new samples, changing and re-bulding this tune on every concert and that's why dead ken beats is still fresh even though it is 3 years old now. and in my opinion this is the way that liam should go.



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