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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:54 am
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So after all these years, we finally get evidence that Liam doesn't know what year it is.

Well that explains a lot of things.



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:51 pm
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Guest01 wrote:
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I'd say no chance of a single this year now.

New single will probably come out a week or so before the new album.



Just dream guys. You can clearly see that Liam just started writing new tracks. We will be lucky if album going to be released in 2018.


We weren't even expecting a new album until Liam's announcement out of the blue. Why say the album will be out early in the new year if it isn't nearly done? He could have kept quiet then just announced the album a month before release.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:29 pm
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This thread has become nearly as tepid as the new stuff from "Master" H.
I really don't like the way Nightmare is ruining everything for everybody and I certainly don't want to go the same way, but I feel that I have to voice my disappointment.

These new bits are heartbreakingly meaningless at best, mostly really one-dimensional and childish sounding. I have a faint hope of these not being any actual material, which would leave me wondering about why Howlett would play these weird leftover thingies live then, at all.
I am growing really tired of their disability to let their sound evolve into something fresh, or at least surprising. They achieved pretty much everything an artist could ask for, so there's nothing else to prove. They're all made, I assume. So why not experiment. Sure I'd like a FOTL 2 or a Jilted 2. But I'd really _love_ something entirely new. Yes, after three, maybe four very creative records it'll get increasingly difficult to innovate and amalgamate, come up with new things every time. But repetition is the death of soul, as we all know, and these last years have been very stale ones, sound wise.
It's the same undefined brickwall-beats over and over, it's the same presetty synth sounds over and over and the same meaningless lyrics over and over.
I am very much with Leeroy here, who, in that really good interview that nice dude from Czech (I think!) conducted, said, that he wished for the Prodigy lyrics to finally evolve, become just a little more intelligent. Sure, Liam always said they don't mean anything to them, but there is a line between not important and awkwardly stupid.
The music has been dumbed down tremendously, imho, and the lyrics just follow suit. Why not at least try to make something out of it? If you use it as just another instrument, why not get creative with it?

I am really glad they are still around, I love that they still tour and make music. And I'm always bursting with excitement whenever something new gets announced. But, yeah, in the end these are testing times.

Fingers crossed for some old/new Howlett magic on the record.

To those who like these new bits: More power to you. It's still just opinions, so I'm glad for you folks and hope the others don't manage to take that away from you.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:58 pm
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I understand your position, it's understandable and relatable.

I like the new bits (well... Resonate more specifically), but I see your point about the shallowness, especially in the lyrics. The thing is, Prodigy lyrics have always been shallow and kind of stupid. Not saying it couldn't change now (and I'd love it), but this is where they're coming from. Because of this, I think I have lower expectations.

Talking about expectations, I think that many Prodigy fans have many different expectations, and it's probably because of when they joined the boat. Everybody wants them to go back to what they were doing when they became fans. For me, I'd love a more modern Experience 2. For many fans, that would sound childish and stupid, because that's what Experience ultimately was.

I personnaly love IMD because it is more upbeat but many people here consider it the inferior album. At the time, I thought it was the ultimate fan service album, turns out the target audience was smaller than I thought.

After that, I felt that the Jetfighter era was incredibly stale, and I actually never regretted LH scrapping those tracks. Not that I wouldn't have liked them released anyway though, but they just felt rehashed to me.

This brings me to a great point that you made: they don't invent anything new anymore. That I agree 100% with, and it's too bad. Some say LH now makes Prodigy By Numbers tracks, and it's not far from the truth. The thing is, even rehashed Prodigy tracks still sound better than anything else I hear, which is probably the saddest part for me. I think we're just too old.



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:31 pm
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So no news about single this year maybe early or in the end of 2018?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:36 pm
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Ekko wrote:
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Well said Ekko. Tottaly agreed from start to finish.



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:12 pm
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ExCiZieR wrote:
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Well said Ekko. Tottaly agreed from start to finish.


I agree that they have fallen into some sort of formula themselves. IMD, TDIME and probably new album will belong to somewhat same soundscape.

After AONO it was make it or break it for the band as a whole. So they gave Keith and Maxim bigger role on stage. They had new energy to continue.. and it's been same so far. And that's the reason they are still here. Thank fuk.

It's quite obvious in my opinion that it's harder and harder for Liam to pull out amazing rabbits from the hat .
Electronic dance/party music overall is quite rock bottom in the world today. Mainstream sucks more then has ever before, nothing really interesting doesn't come out underground also.. something that would reach charts like prodigy did in the 90s...

I believe he is doing he's best. I myself take the good things out of their music what i can.. and don't bother with the rest of it. To be honest there is maybe one album amount of tracks from AONO to today i really enjoy. Rest of it is good and banging with huge PA.. live..

Tho i must admit, it really is more about rocking live than writing something new and clever. Anyways he's got my full respect in aspect that he is pushing forward and still loving to write music.



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:20 pm
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James Jupiter wrote:
We weren't even expecting a new album until Liam's announcement out of the blue. Why say the album will be out early in the new year if it isn't nearly done? He could have kept quiet then just announced the album a month before release.


To sell a shitload of gig tickets to people expecting to hear new finished tracks who maybe wouldn't have bothered otherwise.

That is what I was expecting. Kinda glad I'm not going to Brixton now if nothing is even half done.



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:28 pm
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Elsewhere wrote:
Electronic dance/party music overall is quite rock bottom in the world today. Mainstream sucks more then has ever before, nothing really interesting doesn't come out underground also.. something that would reach charts like prodigy did in the 90s...


EDM/mainstream electronic music is shit, but there's plenty of amazing underground music out there. Nothing is gonna chart like the 90s because that kind of musical marketing landscape is dead. The charts is for shit, unchallenging music you hear in a cell phone commercial. You're not gonna see underground chart because that whole MTV charting world is dead. The charts are for your pop radio artists. It's for the lowest common denominator music now. But don't knock the underground because there's tons of amazing producers out there doing great things. You just have to go find it and not have someone's best of chart tell you what is good. There's no MTV of today to summarize what is good for you and honestly good riddance. Even with MTV, only a small sliver of good music was being curated to you. Me personally, I never stop digging for new music and constantly searching and I've come across some awesome music. Sadly, it doesn't seem Liam does do much digging below the surface either since he's always going off on mainstream producers and DJs. I guess that's why I'm not so torn waiting for the next Prodigy release, I got plenty of great music to occupy my time with. I just can't agree with the whole "it's not how it used to be" thinking like music isn't good anymore. Yeah, what's consider commercial music isn't good anymore, but again, that is a tiny sliver of what is out there. I'd love to hear what Liam would write if he actually dug deeper into what's out there. But I guess like many people out there, they just don't want to take the time to search through the vast ocean of music that's out there. But in this day and age, charts are irrelevant to actual quality. Charts just prove you have the best marketing scheme and presence.



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:20 pm
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The constant complaints from fans is nothing new. I remember fans complaining about 'MFTJG' due to the introduction of guitars. Some fans hated the 'punk' direction with Keith singing on 'Firestarter'. A lot of fans didn't like it when lyrics were introduced. They wanted The Prodigy to keep producing instrumental rave tracks. People's tastes change. I used to really like The Chemical Brothers but they went more and more House music. I pick and choose what I want to listen to from them now. I don't post on their fan forums constantly about how I don't like them as much anymore. Who cares about what someone else likes or doesn't like in music? People should listen to what they do like. People seem to spend more of their time on what they don't like rather than what they do like.

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James Jupiter wrote:
We weren't even expecting a new album until Liam's announcement out of the blue. Why say the album will be out early in the new year if it isn't nearly done? He could have kept quiet then just announced the album a month before release.


To sell a shitload of gig tickets to people expecting to hear new finished tracks who maybe wouldn't have bothered otherwise.

That is what I was expecting. Kinda glad I'm not going to Brixton now if nothing is even half done.


A UK tour by The Prodigy always sells well. They wouldn't have struggled to sell tickets even if they'd said no new tracks.

I got to hear 3 new tracks in Doncaster. 90% of the people going to a Prodigy gig want to hear the tracks they know. It's only us 'super fans' who want to hear new tracks.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:34 pm
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The only thing that irritates me when it come to The Prodigy is Liam constantly talking out of his ass when it comes to new releases.

His music is his thing and people appreciate him for just that, he's authentic and he does what he likes.

His antics about new releases are nothing new though. I remember around between 95 and 97, I would visit my local record store and scrounge for singles that I didn't have to see if they had interesting b-sides on them. Once in a while, I'd ask the people working there if they knew when the new Prodigy album would come out, and at some point a guy sighed and then pointed to a sign that said "NO, we do not know when the new Prodigy album will come out". Guess I wasn't the only one asking.
Seems that at that time, he was too busy playing Tomb Raider on his Playstation, at least that's what the stories say.



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:37 pm
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gcx wrote:
The only thing that irritates me when it come to The Prodigy is Liam constantly talking out of his ass when it comes to new releases.


I personally think he should be reported to Trading Standards (and then take that well earned holiday) :roll:



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:45 pm
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When its about Liam it is always the same. We have to take what he says with grain of salt. But Im more confident this time. First of all I always go back to that news from bmg https://www.bmg.com/uk/news/The-Prodigy ... o-BMG.html It specifically said album next year with burst of activities in 2018. Second, is making a timeline from the prodigy and other artists instagram profiles. The prodigy first announced new beats on that post EP posted december 2016. Then we hava a picture with Brother Culture studio bizznez or something like that in june 2017, in july we have a studio pic with Ragga Twins, also they posted a picture from Liams studio that later they deleted because you could see board with possible track names. Etc etc. You all got my point that Liam was busy in the studio at least for last half a year. He promised new beats and we got new beats literally on this gigs. Im not defending him, he also promised single this year but nothing. Call me desperate I dont mind :lol:



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:52 pm
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Not sure if this has been posted before but they've updated their YouTube with an updated logo. It's still the same 2009+ logo but the 'h' is modified.
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