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*PinHead*
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:54 am |
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GeneralPosts: 3303Location: DoglandJoined: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:49 pm
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Chaosu wrote: yeah lol maybe im not active here lately but since when you can put more insults and swearing than normal words and it's ok? do we really need to count the amount of normal words and insults and see who has the majority?. it's funny to me seeing that suck happy,free loving people get so aggresive and judgemental against a band,only because of a minor incident who actually didn't spoil anything for anyone. also the ,,rude'' part of the comment wasn't adressed to you.it was for aurel who decided to join a prodigy forum only to complain and say shit about the band.also i think i gave more arguments regarding the subject as did everyone in this topic,then this little cry baby. as for you chaosu,nothing against you.i really like the polish members on this forum.always cool guys who contribute a lot and always nice opinions.it's just that with you i'm amazed you feel there needs to be so much talk about a minor thing. Quote: aurel
And then Prodigy came... Well, they didn't spoiled the mood that much
They got out, played what they were suppoused to play, exacly one hour later they packed up and flew. At least they played well. There were no contact with audience. It was like the leader was afraid to speak to us. The only thing that he repeat several times was "Take two fucking steps back!". Very touchy.
The Prodigy on Woodstock - big dissapointment. You could have been great, you could have made those people love you, but well, you didn't want to.
No more "proffessional" bands on Woodstock! Put your whims up your arss and take two fucking steps back!
*PinHead* > how can you get so aggresive just because someone says something unpleasant about your beloved band?
don't register on a band forum next time if your only purpose is to talk shit about that band
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kolano
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:02 pm |
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GruntPosts: 59Location: PolandJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:55 pm
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only in poland fucking shit, on fb theres a war, on official site statement instead of some cool pictures or dugdale`s video. now prodigy will never come back to poland because of fucking Owsiak`s ego, and stupid audience, peace and love my ass.
thats polish mentality right there.
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jilted
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:07 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 1007Location: Atomic WastelandJoined: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:26 am
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what a laugh told ya - not the same band, just bunch of cocaine driven dickheads
POLAND VS THE PRODIGY !!!
1st ever band (igeard) that being piss off at ORGANIZERS makin poor performance FOR AUDIENCE never thought it could happen. a hard dance band not barbara streisand omg what a shame... also never seen artist being escorted by police from concert - maybe they were so scared by the 'riot' ... meh
hey oldmen - go back to your familys, the stage is too scary for you! you should protect yourself
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evans
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:32 pm |
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ModeratorPosts: 4789Location: Wolverhampton, UKJoined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:52 pm
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ok people, i need you all to do something for me ok?
Iwant you to take your thumb and your index finger and gently hold your ear lobe, now gently massage it and repeat after me "wooooooosa" "woooooooosa"
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jilted
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:38 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 1007Location: Atomic WastelandJoined: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:26 am
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Chaosu wrote: source: http://owsiaknet.pl/channel/blog/27495555#videoQuote: (part of interview about prodigy starts, short questions are interviewer, answers are Mr. Owsiak, my comments or additional info or explanation in [] brackets) -What were they thinking... -...when they demanded barriers? It was writen in their contract, I'm not saying it wasn't. And that was the only band that had this written in contract, and we were trying to convince them and said "listen, you will see when you arrive here that barriers are not necessery. our middleman [Mystic Production as we just read in press release] confirmed that, when talking with them, that the band agreed. -but not on paper -yes, it wasn't written anywhere. but to finish that [finish his thought?], because barriers were delivered. so [prodigy] crew arrived the day before. they saw the gigs. Helloween, where there was massive crowd in front of stage. this is somehow tested [confirmed, verified]. it's not random logistics, like unless something bad happens... when people see 4m high wall in front of them, wall of stage, they do have to come back to see anything, because they reached end. they won't see a thing there. we are even telling them that if they are exhausted during the gig they can sit right there under the stage wall. because when you are there you can't even see a screen, nothing. because of that people [there] are naturally walking away [from the crowd] and all gigs, even of very hard music, Papa Roach, or various metal bands had no reasons to change those rules. these rules were formed in years and when we present festivals summary to officials [government etc.] they also accept that: it's going to be this way.
Someone from Prodigy [crew] came, looked at that and said "ok, i see, this is different ideology", [especially] when he saw that this massive crowd can escape [there in front] so easily. 12 hours before the gig he changed his mind, and i got this evening call, people are already having fun [on gigs] and i already know that i have to organise barriers. these were special barriers, we didn't have ones like that [ready]. they are special and we had to get them from Gdansk [or Tczew, like we have been told on festivals site, both cities about 350-375km away] and they arrived. and then we showed them another miracle, which they didn't want to believe. they were never on that big gig. i value them, this is worlds class band. this is worlds class management, those are worlds best festivals [that they are playing all over the world]. but those are festivals for 40-100 thousands of people. -right, we checked that they played for biggest crowd in Brasil, 60 thousands [interviewer was clearly misinformed as we know] -so what's happening now. we said that we will set up these barriers during the previous [support] band, it was Gentleman. Where crowd for The Prodigy was already waiting. He said that it's more probable [it will happends first/quicker, not sure how to say that in English] that the Red Sea will be divided than we will set up those barriers during a gig. No miracles like that possible. [He said] We need squad of police to move people. And like you saw, i said from the stage, that I ask people to move 10m back because we need to set up that stuff. people moved back and we did setup them. when i was walking past him i asked "is it ok?" and he just said one word, "bit awry". so it was ok [a bit of laugh?], we set them up, they were there and we fulfilled every single demand.
and later this crowd did it's stuff [pushing in front?] so there was a bit of hysteria [fear?] from managements side and i were telling them "easy, just let us do something more. you turned off all the lights. we allways have some lighs on so people can see themselves [in crowd, see the crowd] to make it safe." this caused so much pressure [on management, because they were afraid?] that all lights were turned on [i don't know if he refers to gig or pre-gig]. and we took firebrigades inside, with firehoses and people were later saying "what a great gig, not only we listed to great music, were also cooled with water from firehoses". this was also a bit educational because firebrigades were both Polish and German [festival is very close to German border and various services cooperates/works together]. so, we got this topic done [about The Prodigy]. -but it was a bit of bad blood for you [this is how i say that in English?] -yes, much. because it's not our ideology. it's like telling people, who wrote emails to us later "why they don't trust us. we build this festival in years, we know how it should look like. and we know that when you [Mr Owsiak] tell us something from stage we do listen to that and do that". otherwise [if they wouldn't understand that] they would cry about queues to water taps, queues to shops, because there are always queues. [he continues saying that people were positive the day after even despite waiting in traffic jams etc., because they understand the ideology, the spirit]
[later part of interview mentioning safety] we had aprox. 700 cases in our field hospital. 90% of that was faints, swoons, insect bites and injuries from opening cans. we had 8 cases of hospitalization and this was convultions or heavy injuries/broken bones, completly not related to massive crowd. this crowd cared very much for themselves and i thank them very much for that. enjoy. mouzz wrote: Crowd surfing saved lives that night as people could be helped behind the barrier by first aid people straight away. If you would have a surge forward at woodstock people would be crushed against the stage with no way to escape no idea why you think that woodstock have no crowd surfing to help people get out, no first aid people to help straight away and that there would be no way to escape in emergency situation. open your mind? i'm off. JUREK OWSIAK'S STATEMENT Quote: The 17th edition of Woodstock Festival Poland came to an end on August 6th. According to police estimates, it was attended by 700 000 people from all over Europe.
The event was assessed to be very safe. Among the bands that played at the main stage (one of three stages of the festival) there were: Helloween, Skindred, Zebrahead, Gentleman, Dog Eat Dog and H-Blockx. All these artists expressed their respect for the perfect organization and safety at Woodstock. We had also been praised by the members of Papa Roach, Die Toten Hosen and Killing Joke, as well as Micheal Lang, the legendary organizer of Woodstock ’69.
The Prodigy was one of the biggest stars at this year’s Woodstock Festival Poland. On August 8th, Mr. Karel Hamm disseminated an e-mail statement which is unfair and improper; it contains inaccuracies and unconfirmed information.
Woodstock Festival Poland is the biggest festival in Poland and one of the biggest in Europe. According to a recently published study by the international agency HAVAS SPORTS & ENTERTAINMENT, it is also number 3 European festival when it comes to good organization.
For many years, the festival has been considered a model when it comes to providing safety for such a big mass event. The floor of the stage is located 3.5 meters above ground. The elements which make it difficult to move or which create the risk of somebody being squashed or trampled have been reduced to a minimum. The audience is lit all the time, which makes it possible to monitor the situation constantly and react to any safety threat immediately. Also the model of cooperation between all kinds of services working to provide safety at the event is assessed to be impeccable. Those services include suitably trained volunteers, a security agency, medical services, Government Security Bureau, border guard, firefighters, various police units (intelligence police units, police psychologists and negotiators, riot police, traffic police, an antiterrorist brigade and a pyrotechnic unit) and a police helicopter. What the organizer thinks has happened is there has been a misunderstanding between the organizer and Mr. Karel Hamm.
Both sides cared about safety.
Reading the e-mail written by Mr. Karel Hamm, one might get the impression that, despite the Organizer has explained this, Mr. Hamm did not fully understand how the things work at Woodstock Festival Poland. Furthermore, he did not understand that the festival is organized in line with Polish legal regulations.
At the end of his letter, Mr. Karel Hamm mentions that there was just one stage at the festival, which only confirms his lack of knowledge about Woodstock Festival Poland. In fact, there are three stages at Woodstock, and a tent used to organize meetings at which festival attendees can meet well-known people. These meetings have been attended by many prominent guests, including the former President of Poland and the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize Lech Wałęsa, the President of the European Parliament Prof. Jerzy Buzek, the minister of foreign affairs in the government of His Holiness Dalai Lama Kesang Takla, the organizer of Woodstock 69’ Micheal Lang, and the President of the Polish National Bank Prof. Marek Belka. The festival’s greatness, reputation and popularity were further confirmed by the fact that the incumbent President of Poland Bronisław Komorowski wished the festival’s attendees a lot of fun and many great moments.
Polskie Radio, the biggest and the oldest all-Poland public radio station, published an article on its website, describing hot safe the festival was.
The safety of the attendees is the number one priority for the organizer. It is because of this that a no-flight zone has been established within a radius of 5 kilometers of the venue by the Polish Air Navigation Services Agency.
Mr. Karel Hamm’s statement that “All that happened could have been avoided” is hard to understand since no extraordinary situations took place during Woodstock Festival Poland. Admittedly, some people fainted and there were some minor injuries but this could happen in any other situation too.
The motto of the organizer of Woodstock is „Stop Drugs, Stop Violence”.
The organizer has appealed to the audience that they behave safely. The question of safety has been addressed from the stage many times, and the organizer has reminded that no dangerous materials, including flares, are permitted. Passing over the personal attitude of Mr. Karel Hamm to the Promoter, one could conclude from his letter that he does not like the Promoter very much, and his behavior might be construed as dismissive. None of the remarks Mr. Karel Hamm made were ignored, and what is more, all his requirements were fulfilled: suitable barriers were provided and he was present when they were being installed. It is hard to understand why the band postponed the beginning of their performance by 40 minutes, ignoring the fact that an audience of some hundred thousand was waiting in front of the stage. If the festival had not been safe, it seems that Mr. Karel Hamm would not have agreed for the concert to start.
Suggesting in the e-mail that the actions of Jerzy Owsiak might be considered criminal is, euphemistically speaking, tactless.
Despite what Mr. Karel Hamm wrote, nobody was really injured. Nobody died. The attendees of Woodstock Festival Poland are safe, and they went home happy. Only a nasty aftertaste is left in them, of a pretentious attitude of an artist.
Yours Sincerely,
Jurek Owsiak
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kolano
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:42 pm |
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GruntPosts: 59Location: PolandJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:55 pm
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jilted wrote: what a laugh told ya - not the same band, just bunch of cocaine driven dickheads POLAND VS THE PRODIGY !!! 1st ever band (igeard) that being piss off at ORGANIZERS makin poor performance FOR AUDIENCE never thought it could happen. a hard dance band not barbara streisand omg what a shame... also never seen artist being escorted by police from concert - maybe they were so scared by the 'riot' ... meh hey oldmen - go back to your familys, the stage is too scary for you! you should protect yourself
man you got it all wrong, Mr Owsiak (organizer) is pissed off on band cause he had to arrange this fences like really fast and he was thinking this is the band with no energy in their music so nothing bad could have happened. the number 700k ppl is scary itself, it had to be done.
and about police escort - there is only one small road leading to festival in the middle of woods, thousands od people where out there, i was walking back this road after the gig in speed of 1km/h, so many people, and dark like in the ass.
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Chaosu
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:47 pm |
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MajorPosts: 735Location: PolandJoined: Wed May 23, 2007 12:08 pm
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kolano wrote: and about police escort - there is only one small road leading to festival in the middle of woods, thousands od people where out there, i was walking back this road after the gig in speed of 1km/h, so many people, and dark like in the ass. don't spread false informations, there a few roads out, including three asphalt roads like the one you were walking on. there are also at least 2 (i know of 2) roads via woods, maybe not best quality but perfectly usable for everyone (espiecially considering that festival offers bands experienced driver in a jeep/suv) *PinHead* wrote: it was for aurel who decided to join a prodigy forum only to complain and say shit about the band. well, there was one polish prodigy forum when admin disliked some stuff. posts were being deleted a bit too often for my liking. i left it. some other fans made new forum... but the new admin also didn't liked my critique. i quit that one too and i don't even look there anymore - bunch of idiots. aurel may be unhappy but he just said his own opinion, and we shouldn't forbid that one, right? there is enough to read so maybe he will get some new info while he is here... after all this topic is to comment on the gig and he did that.
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kolano
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:56 pm |
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GruntPosts: 59Location: PolandJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:55 pm
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but this was like main road to stage, so why they were driving
ambulances, police cars etc by this road spreading people? apparently this was the best way of traveling. without police escort the bands car would arrive on roof;)
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*PinHead*
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:28 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 3303Location: DoglandJoined: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:49 pm
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Chaosu wrote: *PinHead* wrote: it was for aurel who decided to join a prodigy forum only to complain and say shit about the band. well, there was one polish prodigy forum when admin disliked some stuff. posts were being deleted a bit too often for my liking. i left it. some other fans made new forum... but the new admin also didn't liked my critique. i quit that one too and i don't even look there anymore - bunch of idiots. aurel may be unhappy but he just said his own opinion, and we shouldn't forbid that one, right? there is enough to read so maybe he will get some new info while he is here... after all this topic is to comment on the gig and he did that.
i don't like abusive mods either but:
-.all members have the right to debate.we saw this very often here.heated debates and so on.but it was done by members of the forum.
-aurel on the other hand is not a member of the forum.he is a pissed out guy who didn't like fences and the fact the band didn't speak to the crowd.i understand that some of the polish people who attented the gig didn't like somethings.and they are entitled to their opinion.but that doesn't mean they have to register to this forum just to tell us how lame this band is.
for example i don't like pendulum.i shit on them every chance i get on this forum and when i hang out with friends.but i won't go to their official page and comment how disspointed i am of them.or worse i won't go to their fan forum and talk shit about them.it's rude.
if aurel has problems he can go to that link of the festival which he gave with the poll and talk to those people.that is ok.registering just to flame i consider it a insult.
i can debate with you or any other member of the forum,but trolls.fuck them.they are not entitled to a opinion here..
about the performance.read on festival forum people were dissapointed
-because the show lasted one hour
-because the band was late on stage 30-40 mins
-because they didn't speak to the crowd
-because they left quick
-because they were escorted by police
-because in some places you couldn't hear the set just right
now anybody who ever attended a prodigy gig knows
- that the setlist the band plays,17 tracks only lasts 1 hour 10 mins
- the band always come on stage late
-they do speak to the crowd(it's always the same thing,but they speak it god damn it)
-always leave after the show
-the sound in the venue isn't their fault if the organizer didn't prepare quality speakers and equipment for all the venue
-police escort is needed if the band wants to get quick at the venue,or leave quickly.also to stop fans from surrounding the cars when they leave.this is done with all artists.all of them.anywhere on the planet.
i remember my first show-they came late,they played very systematic,left.afterwards we thought the set was too short,or that the organizers didn't pay them properly and so on.but afterwards i found out there was a full setlist,they even treated us to a final encore.they gave us water from the stage.tons of bottles of water.they told to security to calm down because they were very brutal in the front.this band does care about the people at their concerts.always respectful.always has safety in mind.anyone who doesn't understands this,either has never been to a gig of them,or doesn't understand them very well
i like at least there are people on the polish forum who do think there is a need of better protection even if nothing tragic happened until now.
oh and aurel,love your name ..rant over
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aurel
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:52 pm |
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Quote: if aurel has problems he can go to that link of the festival which he gave with the poll and talk to those people.that is ok.registering just to flame i consider it a insult.
i can debate with you or any other member of the forum,but trolls.fuck them.they are not entitled to a opinion here..
Ow gosh, i didn't realize that registering is such an effort. It lasted like 30s. I got a link to this topic from a friend. I read posts, i felt like replying so i did. Call it trolling, i don't care, at least i'm not throwing shit at people, calling them 12-year old virgins etc. Quote: now anybody who ever attended a prodigy gig knows - that the setlist the band plays,17 tracks only lasts 1 hour 10 mins - the band always come on stage late -they do speak to the crowd(it's always the same thing,but they speak it god damn it) -always leave after the show -the sound in the venue isn't their fault if the organizer didn't prepare quality speakers and equipment for all the venue -police escort is needed if the band wants to get quick at the venue,or leave quickly.also to stop fans from surrounding the cars when they leave.this is done with all artists.all of them.anywhere on the planet.
First thing - the fact, that they allways do something, doesn't make it right.
Second thing - it is not like Prodigy can't connect with the crowd! I saw other concerts of this band, and they we're great and heartcatching. So don't tell me, that they never speak to the crowd, it's just not true.
This time - they came, they played, they flew. They could've played from a record i wouldn't notice. And there are many people who feel the same way.
Ah, and i'm a girl, btw.
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gava
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:59 pm |
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ModeratorPosts: 2661Location: Zagreb, CroatiaJoined: Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:15 am
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aurel wrote: Ah, and i'm a girl, btw.
welcome to the forum u girl , now u'll see how Pinhead transforms all of a sudden
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:01 pm |
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evans
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:19 pm |
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:51 pm |
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*PinHead* wrote: oh and aurel,love your name ..rant over
and they lived happy forever
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evans
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:03 pm |
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ModeratorPosts: 4789Location: Wolverhampton, UKJoined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:52 pm
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we've got big respect for the charity work mr Owsiak has done and the 17 shows without a problem..., we've done 250 plus festivals around the world, all with barriers to protect the safety of the fans .... his ego was dented by this request for whatever reason ,..
we all looking forward as always to comin bak to play to our polish fans with new album wen its finished , thanks to all of you people for making it a gig to remember
stay safe
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