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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:33 pm
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NEOREV wrote:
unfortunately, i don't think Liam is finished with them and we're still in the beginning stages of the album. they'll lock themselves away after WDF and here's hoping for a new album early next year before the festival season kicks in again.

he probably felt they were good enough ideas to at least show off and give fans a taste...
and plus the live shows will help him develop them for the album
because let's face it, they're only a couple of minutes each
Dogbite is lacking that epic bridge moment right before the beats hit you in the face again
Jetfighter seems to be the most "in demo form" of all the 3, but for me is the most promising because it's back to some fast and pummeling beats

AWOL is the most finished sounding of the the 3, but it's a leftover IMD track
so Liam had some time to polish it for the live shows
plus the fact that Liam even mentioned it back in the day means it must have been somewhat finished

but honestly, i felt this current tour was simply to help put the pieces into place and help with the writing phase. give Liam some inspiration and allow him to try out ideas and get an automatic reaction from the crowd.
test some ideas out and help flesh them out for the album


AWOL consists of one and the same part thats being repeatet 3 times (with no changes) and a breakdown inbetween... doesnt sound like a finished track to me.
Jetfighter is actually the same. Same beats followed by same chorus, repeatet twice.
I have the feeling Liam is running out of creativity if you ask me, none of this looks too promising.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:00 pm
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NEOREV wrote:
AWOL is the most finished sounding of the the 3, but it's a leftover IMD track


IMD leftover? Liam mentioned title only so we do not know...


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:46 pm
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what i meant was out of the 3, AWOL is the one that actually sounds most like a complete song

is it the finished version? who knows, no one but Liam does
if it is a finished version, it sounds lazy

but it's the only one out of the 3 that has the standard track structure of verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus

none of them actually feel finished to me to be honest

sadly, the new test stuff is pretty forgettable...
Jetfighter sounds interesting, would love to see where Liam takes it

what scares me is that Dogbite hasn't really changed a bit since it first was played except for lyrics... but it still feels like its missing something
it just kinda goes back and forth without really developing into an actual track

AWOL is the standard Prodigy punk/rock track and the least exciting

for me, i want some more adrenaline pumping. electronic, bass booming shit in the style of The Big Gundown, Rhythm Of Life, and Back To Skool

the vids for Jetfighter have that vibe, but still sounds like a very early demo

but lately their sets are a handful of full tracks with a bunch of 2 minute cool ideas/jams spacing them out...
and sure they hit hard, but they don't develop into anything that feels like a full track

i remember Liam said he had a hard time writing long songs...
and it's starting to show

i think we really are in the very beginning stages of a new album

listen to the Thunder live video, Liam was like "well we have a sleeve and title" and chuckled about where they were at in the process...
which gave me the feeling that they really didn't have anything done and this is the early, early stage



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:57 pm
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Dogbite might end up being one of those tunes that Liam sends out to rappers for a colaboration....

would be nice to have one of the remaining Beastie Boys in there :P

Jetfighter needs a better bridge, intro and chorus.. but the beat is already there. and it's awesomesauce.

AWOL is pretty much done.. just a simple, strong punk tune.. no need to overcomplicate it.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:03 pm
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another thing that worries me are the samples on Dogbite and Jetfighter
we've seen it a lot lately with Prodge tracks that I can't get released or changed because of a sampling issue

hopefully we don't get another "Warrior's Dance" issue when it comes to sample clearance

maybe Liam can get Serj to really sing on the album version and Jack White to play guitar and avoid sampling issues... that would be cool



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:26 pm
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NEOREV wrote:
maybe Liam can get Serj to really sing on the album version and Jack White to play guitar and avoid sampling issues... that would be cool


Liam siad that he will collaborate with: Keith Flint and Maxim Reality :) The Prodigy is not Gorillaz and I'm happy about it. So only what is acceptable for me is something like female / male vocals for example Spitfire, Girls or Awol.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:31 pm
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well i'm just waiting for when Dogbite can't be on the album cuz of the White Stripes sample or Jetfighter with the System of a Down sample

now that's gonna suck



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:47 pm
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Nightmare wrote:
NEOREV wrote:
maybe Liam can get Serj to really sing on the album version and Jack White to play guitar and avoid sampling issues... that would be cool


Liam siad that he will collaborate with: Keith Flint and Maxim Reality :) The Prodigy is not Gorillaz and I'm happy about it. So only what is acceptable for me is something like female / male vocals for example Spitfire, Girls or Awol.


gorillaz fucking rock



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:08 pm
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Plain_John wrote:
gorillaz fucking rock


Did I said they don't rock? I like Gorillaz also ;)


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:11 pm
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well I was just trying to point out a way to avoid sampling/money issues in regards to the new stuff

kinda like what Liam did with Kool Keith on Under My Wheels and rerecording the "i rock, i roll" vocal

i would hate for a "Warrior's Dance" incident where the recreation of a sample wasn't as good because of clearance issues



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:11 pm
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^what he said^

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:43 pm
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can someone message this guy and see if he got full show? audio is better
http://vimeo.com/43806102


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:52 am
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crock wrote:
can someone message this guy and see if he got full show? audio is better
http://vimeo.com/43806102


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:19 pm
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climbatize92 wrote:
Jetfighter in a good quality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AowfDk2-Lo


this owns. def the best new track so far!!!

makes me want to jump around right fucking now!!!



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