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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 10:20 pm
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jonyintheplace wrote:
It's always like that, there's a group of 4-5 users (but some of them have deserted too) who do not allow any criticism towards the band, on top of that, some of their replies are quite aggressive and arrogant...honestly, I couldn't care less because this is a public forum where everybody should be free to give his opinion.

I suppose this is the type of people who cancel other people's opinion on twitter or similar social media sites if you disagree with them. Add a meme at the end of your text and you have apparently won a debate on the net...utterly pathetic

I like The Prodigy, I used to love them and they were my fav band for years and years and they will always have a place in my heart and my youth memories but I'm also an adult with opinions and if I want to say that they are in an obvious decline at this stage of their career, the rest of the forum shouldn't take my message as a personal attack


Let's point out the bullshit...

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The usual fanboys will say that this new tune is a "banger", "sh*t to smash da crowds" or "pure fire bang bomb choooon for the live set, that's what they play for maaaaan"...


Guest01 wrote:
and everybody can see it except the ones who seeing through their fanboy eyes.


Funny how both of your posts are based around attacking fans who still enjoy The Prodigy. It's not like you're just stating your opinion about how you don't like The Prodigy anymore. You're literally basing your whole post around how other fans are wrong for still liking them and giving them shit for liking the new song. This is what you don't seem to understand. You can voice your opinion about the band while being less of a cunt and not attacking people who enjoy them. It's hysterical how you can say there are people who are aggressive and arrogant with a straight face. This is literally you. People are simply returning the type of attitude you give off. Because you're always waiting in the wings looking for anyone who has anything positive to say about new Prodigy music so you can pounce and tell them for the thousandth time how they're wrong and that you don't like The Prodigy anymore. Perhaps why you're finding more people not wanting to interact with you. Also, no one us canceling you or stifling criticism. All your repetitive posts saying the same BS for years now are still up for all to read. Only the real assholes get the boot. And when that happens, it's a group agreeing on removing that person.



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 10:54 pm
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Guest01 wrote:
First, you equated criticism and hatred as the same thing. Wrong!

Second, yes fanboys are delusional, no question about it. I don't know if you are fanboy, I never implied on you specificaly, but when you act like one it's your problem then. Maybe another meme/gif?

You are the one who takes personal offense when someone criticizes the band, calling other fans you don't know anything about "sad, old, jaded people" or "miserable sods" etc... So, maybe you indeed wasting your time!

/Peace/


It's funny how you can be offended by the sad, old, jaded, and miserable comment, but then you go on calling people you don't even know delusional and fanboys. For what? Enjoying something? Let people enjoy what they enjoy and have a good time. Breaking news, people like things that you may not like. It doesn't make them delusional. Are people not allowed to love or get enjoyment out of anything anymore? Do we need to pick sides? And if you don't enjoy the new music anymore, then jog on. You see these negative people who's goal is to bring everyone else down and shit talk people for enjoying a track you don't like.



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 11:51 pm
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NEOREV wrote:
Guest01 wrote:
First, you equated criticism and hatred as the same thing. Wrong!

Second, yes fanboys are delusional, no question about it. I don't know if you are fanboy, I never implied on you specificaly, but when you act like one it's your problem then. Maybe another meme/gif?

You are the one who takes personal offense when someone criticizes the band, calling other fans you don't know anything about "sad, old, jaded people" or "miserable sods" etc... So, maybe you indeed wasting your time!

/Peace/


It's funny how you can be offended by the sad, old, jaded, and miserable comment, but then you go on calling people you don't even know delusional and fanboys. For what? Enjoying something? Let people enjoy what they enjoy and have a good time. Breaking news, people like things that you may not like. It doesn't make them delusional. Are people not allowed to love or get enjoyment out of anything anymore? Do we need to pick sides? And if you don't enjoy the new music anymore, then jog on. You see these negative people who's goal is to bring everyone else down and shit talk people for enjoying a track you don't like.



Breaking news, fans don't like everything ever served to them, they can criticize too.

People are allowed to love whatever they want, and they are also allowed to criticize too.

I won't "jog on", The Prodigy is my favorite band as is for most of the people here. I have my clear impressions about things I mentioned and I don't hold back from saying them. Yes, sometimes it's negative but it's never a shit talk.

As I say, you can't even consider yourself a fan if you're not willing to criticize, state where you're dissatisfied, point out mistakes, and hope for progress and improvement. So, goal is not to bring everyone else down.

Somebody maybe see everything as perfect, but if things are not perfect and he still see it that way, ignoring things other people notice and blindly convincing himself that these are not true facts, gets personally offended if someone criticizes the band and always defending them no matter what, then he is just a so called fanboy.

And fanboys ARE delusional, that's not an accusation or a name-calling, that's a clear fact. It is why they are fanboys and not just regular fans.



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 12:24 pm
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Hi.

Let's just hope that Fight! is either an early demo version and will be changed drastically fanstastically in the future, or it is a Need Some1 type of song and the rest of new tunes (if there are any) will be just better as it was in No Tourists' case.

And I hope that Disrupt ya Flow is going to be released in the future. Liam tested it last yer and now it waits for its turn, not to get people bored of it too quickly, I hope. Or he is gonna ditch it as he did with Jetfighter's tunes. People liked it? Ok fuck it I will thrash it :?

Disappointed by the tour though. I do not see a point in re-adding TDIME tunes back to the setlist (as far as it is not OG TDIME). I know that they played EITP for a long time but it was a great track live, especially that main focus there was on Leo, who had his time rocking on drums. Changing it to Warriors is not a good choice

I had much more hopes for this tour


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Warrior's Dance sounds to be a new mix from the recording I've heard, unless I'm mistaking. Haven't been able to see them live this tour, so don't know for sure, but the bass sounds a different pattern?



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 1:39 pm
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Smiechol wrote:
Hi.

Let's just hope that Fight! is either an early demo version and will be changed drastically fanstastically in the future, or it is a Need Some1 type of song and the rest of new tunes (if there are any) will be just better as it was in No Tourists' case.

And I hope that Disrupt ya Flow is going to be released in the future. Liam tested it last yer and now it waits for its turn, not to get people bored of it too quickly, I hope. Or he is gonna ditch it as he did with Jetfighter's tunes. People liked it? Ok fuck it I will thrash it :?

Disappointed by the tour though. I do not see a point in re-adding TDIME tunes back to the setlist (as far as it is not OG TDIME). I know that they played EITP for a long time but it was a great track live, especially that main focus there was on Leo, who had his time rocking on drums. Changing it to Warriors is not a good choice

I had much more hopes for this tour


I agree with you. I mean, the ides are good, but I don't like the thing of bringing just some demos with a loop repeating for 2 or 3 minutes.
In my opinion, the sound is great as it always it (for me), but lacks of some parts, like some stasis parts, maybe with some more melodies. When I say melody, I don't mean that the track should be more melodic. I mean it should give more variation to the track self. Need Some 1, for instance, uses a melodic part as "bridge" giving the track a more various vibe and track doesn't sound monotone.



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 8:33 pm
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Guest01 wrote:
Breaking news, fans don't like everything ever served to them, they can criticize too.

People are allowed to love whatever they want, and they are also allowed to criticize too.

I won't "jog on", The Prodigy is my favorite band as is for most of the people here. I have my clear impressions about things I mentioned and I don't hold back from saying them. Yes, sometimes it's negative but it's never a shit talk.

As I say, you can't even consider yourself a fan if you're not willing to criticize, state where you're dissatisfied, point out mistakes, and hope for progress and improvement. So, goal is not to bring everyone else down.

Somebody maybe see everything as perfect, but if things are not perfect and he still see it that way, ignoring things other people notice and blindly convincing himself that these are not true facts, gets personally offended if someone criticizes the band and always defending them no matter what, then he is just a so called fanboy.

And fanboys ARE delusional, that's not an accusation or a name-calling, that's a clear fact. It is why they are fanboys and not just regular fans.


Because they don't believe what you believe, that makes someone a fanboy. Because you feel that there is a problem while someone else does not see an issue, that makes them a fanboy. I think you may be the deluded one. It seems if someone doesn't agree with you, you just label them a fanboy. Maybe you didn't see my post where I said people are allow to share their opinions and critiques, but don't be a cunt about it and don't base your opinion off bashing other people for enjoying something you do not. Which both you and jonyintheplace did. Stop caring so much about what other people enjoy. Let people enjoy what they enjoy. It's pretty simple. If you can't respect fellow fans, then yes, jog on.



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 8:40 pm
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Smiechol wrote:
Hi.

Let's just hope that Fight! is either an early demo version and will be changed drastically fanstastically in the future, or it is a Need Some1 type of song and the rest of new tunes (if there are any) will be just better as it was in No Tourists' case.

And I hope that Disrupt ya Flow is going to be released in the future. Liam tested it last yer and now it waits for its turn, not to get people bored of it too quickly, I hope. Or he is gonna ditch it as he did with Jetfighter's tunes. People liked it? Ok fuck it I will thrash it :?

Disappointed by the tour though. I do not see a point in re-adding TDIME tunes back to the setlist (as far as it is not OG TDIME). I know that they played EITP for a long time but it was a great track live, especially that main focus there was on Leo, who had his time rocking on drums. Changing it to Warriors is not a good choice

I had much more hopes for this tour


You complain about Fight! while other people love it.
You love Disrupt Ya Flow while other people complained about it.

People ask for Liam to play different songs live. He goes and plays Warrior's Dance, which hasn't been played in 12+ years, and The Day Is My Enemy and Night Is My Friend, which was only played a handful of times nearly 10 years ago, and people are mad he played those tracks.

Some people want Liam to do something completely new and different while others want him to make another Experience or another Jilted.

Liam can't win with fans.


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NEOREV wrote:
Guest01 wrote:
Breaking news, fans don't like everything ever served to them, they can criticize too.

People are allowed to love whatever they want, and they are also allowed to criticize too.

I won't "jog on", The Prodigy is my favorite band as is for most of the people here. I have my clear impressions about things I mentioned and I don't hold back from saying them. Yes, sometimes it's negative but it's never a shit talk.

As I say, you can't even consider yourself a fan if you're not willing to criticize, state where you're dissatisfied, point out mistakes, and hope for progress and improvement. So, goal is not to bring everyone else down.

Somebody maybe see everything as perfect, but if things are not perfect and he still see it that way, ignoring things other people notice and blindly convincing himself that these are not true facts, gets personally offended if someone criticizes the band and always defending them no matter what, then he is just a so called fanboy.

And fanboys ARE delusional, that's not an accusation or a name-calling, that's a clear fact. It is why they are fanboys and not just regular fans.


Because they don't believe what you believe, that makes someone a fanboy. Because you feel that there is a problem while someone else does not see an issue, that makes them a fanboy. I think you may be the deluded one. It seems if someone doesn't agree with you, you just label them a fanboy. Maybe you didn't see my post where I said people are allow to share their opinions and critiques, but don't be a cunt about it and don't base your opinion off bashing other people for enjoying something you do not. Which both you and jonyintheplace did. Stop caring so much about what other people enjoy. Let people enjoy what they enjoy. It's pretty simple. If you can't respect fellow fans, then yes, jog on.



Again your fanboy/not fanboy obsession. I described you in this very post you quoted what fanboy is, so you can choose to be/act as one or not.

Why you think that people need to respect what somebody like and leave it alone, but in same time not to be allowed to say what they don't like. So, people who like it are respected, and people who not need to jog on. Then you jog on, because you are useless here with all this statements!

You are the first one who don't respect fellow fans who notice something you didn't and have different opinion, and immediately counter everybody all the time!

And now you calling people/me cunts? Who do you think you are here... you allowing yourself to insulting people from post to post... how can you even consider yourself a Prodigy fan here...



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:32 pm
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jonyintheplace wrote:

It's always like that, there's a group of 4-5 users (but some of them have deserted too) who do not allow any criticism towards the band, on top of that, some of their replies are quite aggressive and arrogant...honestly, I couldn't care less because this is a public forum where everybody should be free to give his opinion.

I suppose this is the type of people who cancel other people's opinion on twitter or similar social media sites if you disagree with them. Add a meme at the end of your text and you have apparently won a debate on the net...utterly pathetic

I like The Prodigy, I used to love them and they were my fav band for years and years and they will always have a place in my heart and my youth memories but I'm also an adult with opinions and if I want to say that they are in an obvious decline at this stage of their career, the rest of the forum shouldn't take my message as a personal attack


I see that a large number of people have left the forum or never posts again, probably mostly because of that. It's mostly Mr. Neorev these days, without him, everyone would have a natural discussion here about both positive and negative things alike. Maybe the forum is now owned by him, because I haven't noticed the original owner or those who took over later for a very long time. But it is, what it is...



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Again your fanboy/not fanboy obsession. I described you in this very post you quoted what fanboy is, so you can choose to be/act as one or not.

Why you think that people need to respect what somebody like and leave it alone, but in same time not to be allowed to say what they don't like. So, people who like it are respected, and people who not need to jog on. Then you jog on, because you are useless here with all this statements!

You are the first one who don't respect fellow fans who notice something you didn't and have different opinion, and immediately counter everybody all the time!

And now you calling people/me cunts? Who do you think you are here... you allowing yourself to insulting people from post to post... how can you even consider yourself a Prodigy fan here...


I don't know if this is a language barrier thing or what, because I clearly said...

NEOREV wrote:
People are allow to share their opinions and critiques, but don't be a cunt about it and don't base your opinion off bashing other people for enjoying something you do not.


Now if you feel like that is you, not much that I can do about it. If someone is gonna bash people or attack people on what they like here, then, yea, they're being a cunt. I don't know how many times I have to spell it out that people can have and express positive and negative reactions without basing their whole stance on shaming or name calling other people enjoying something. You can easily express your opinion without having to attack others. I could care less if you dislike something. Go ahead. Have at it. But some folk can't see how the way they talk makes people not want to interact with them.

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I see that a large number of people have left the forum or never posts again, probably mostly because of that. It's mostly Mr. Neorev these days, without him, everyone would have a natural discussion here about both positive and negative things alike. Maybe the forum is now owned by him, because I haven't noticed the original owner or those who took over later for a very long time. But it is, what it is...


No, I do not own Brainkiller. Sorin still owns BK. He chose a couple of us to help admin for him. The forum was down for a while. Almost didn't come back. But folks kept asking him to keep it going.

And if you want to know why the forum isn't as active as it was...
1) Forums are pretty much dying altogether. For a while, it's not been really a popular platform.
2) The community is now spread across multiple Facebook groups and Discords. We probably should've jumped on that sooner too.
3) BK has expanded to other platforms as well.
4) Which is even more hysterical, multiple people have complained about the life being sucked out of this place because the same couple people constantly come here to complain about how much they hate The Prodigy over and over, so they go to other communities/platforms instead.

As a matter of fact, the only reason I even knew about what was being posted here was because I had numerous people message me like, "Here's so and so again doing the usual complaining."



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NEOREV wrote:
all above



Mr. Neorev, the few of us who criticized didn't bashing, insult or atack anyone, but people like you immediately felt personally attacked by this criticism. Yes, we called fanboys fanboys because that's what they are, an example of people who will always like everything no matter how uninspired or bad it is just because it comes from a favorite source (every fanbase have them). We never have problem people enjoying something, we just want to show that not everyone enjoys it. We don't wish anything bad, neither for the fans nor the band, but we want it to be better. You keep saying that people hate the band, I already told you that it's stupid to equate criticism with hatred. Criticism from fans comes because people care, they notice that things aren't the best and they want it to improve. Those who hate the band are certainly not here or in similar groups. You are the one who doesn't let others have their say, immediately contradicts everyon. You are the one who calls people names, the one who insults other fans and calling them cunts, doesn't respect anyone and acts like the forum is yours. You are the one without whom this forum would be better because of people like you, many have left it, a quite arrogant moderator who shouldn't have been given that privilege. And you are not a Prodigy fan, because fans don't behave like that.



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Mr. Neorev, the few of us who criticized didn't bashing, insult or atack anyone, but people like you immediately felt personally attacked by this criticism.


So in your eyes these type of posts like bellow are not bashing, insulting and just healthy criticism?

jonyintheplace wrote:
The usual fanboys will say that this new tune is a "banger", "sh*t to smash da crowds" or "pure fire bang bomb choooon for the live set, that's what they play for maaaaan"... but, as somebody pointed out, it's nothing new, nothing inspired and it's like a random track they might have done in 2002 and throw away after2 or 3 gigs




This individual is writing the same thing for a while now whenever The Prodigy does anything. And you both are saying made up statements like that there aren't many fans left, glory days are long over. When you both didn't even attend any of these SOLD OUT shows yourself. Saying stuff like that is either trolling which is not that terrible because you have those people everywhere. Or you both are just fucking idiots which is I'm afraid is even worse. And it is actually very sad. Get it together please and try to listen what everyone here is trying to say to you.



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Despite the down-grading of some HC fans and maybe disrespectful choice of words I understand both parties quite well actually.

The music of the Prodigy has changed to please live situations. Needsome1 and Fight! are good examples. They smash it in live shows but not that well when when played by a DJ at a club or when you are listening those while jogging, with your home stereos or in your car. The are made ONLY for the live audience.

This is at same time understandable because Liam has numerous times told in the interviews that their music nowadays is 1st hand for live shows but to some of us longtime fans it has been also a let down because we have used to enjoy the Prodigy music wherever it is played. The older tunes still work no matter how or where you enjoy them.


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