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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:15 pm
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SIMO wrote:
i think its crazy how you are all planning on hacking into these discs, the albums out in a few days, just wat 8-)


+1 Exactly! fucks sake guys the album IS COMING and it WILL be here soon! some impatient folkes around here chill the fuck out!! :)



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:29 pm
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Im kind of excited about the fact of this album being like the old days of getting it on the release date. Well done with the watermark. Bring on the 23



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:02 pm
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ehacker wrote:
Im kind of excited about the fact of this album being like the old days of getting it on the release date. Well done with the watermark. Bring on the 23


to be quite honest, me too. the day tfotl was released I waited in front of my local record shop in the morning before it opened.

though, I wouldn't hesitate to dowload a leak

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:07 pm
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Really? I'd heard most of the tracks by the time it came out and I think kiss fm or someone like that played every track on air a week before release... a ltoof the live stuff wa available on the UGA and En.

Jiilted.. now most of that was fresh....


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:48 pm
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Yeah buying FOTL was excellent for me...I went to a midnight opening of the local Golden Discs here in Dublin and quite a few of the more ardant fans turned up. Got a giant bus-stop ad display sized poster of the album cover...still on my wall to this day

I'm more than happy to wait


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:21 pm
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jeffscott272 wrote:
Yeah buying FOTL was excellent for me...I went to a midnight opening of the local Golden Discs here in Dublin and quite a few of the more ardant fans turned up. Got a giant bus-stop ad display sized poster of the album cover...still on my wall to this day

I'm more than happy to wait


I remember that night, i got mine in Tower Records off Grafton st, huge queue too but there was a bigger one at hmv apparantly, Tower were giving away free prodigy dog tags, gift bag and postcard with the album. Very memorable night! Was first in the queue btw! 8-)



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:41 pm
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dirtchamber wrote:
Wrong. You CAN do it, and it's actually a pretty interesting process. The watermark is, on theory, very easy to implement. All it does is modify some frequencies that are "invisible" to the human ear, so the actual sound of the track doesn't change at all. Anyone can do this using Sound Forge, for example, if he knows the right patterns used to add the details. Decoding the freq pattern should also be easy, just think of it as a morse code.
It's a matter of time before this "protection" stuff is removed, because, on the other end, the record companies DO need some piece of software to decode the encoded watermarks. Once that program is online, say goodbye to this "piracy nightmare".


But can you take the person who has the mp3 file to court?

There has never been a case in this country I am in, so would be a test case and therefore very very dodgy ground for a label to attempt it



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:48 pm
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But can you take the person who has the mp3 file to court?

There has never been a case in this country I am in, so would be a test case and therefore very very dodgy ground for a label to attempt it


most likely the person who will be taken to court will be the promo owner...


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Its all scaremongering. Record labels are using the big words and the big threats so us punters take caution. Would we? Fuck no, I'm sure 99% of us here have downloaded thousands of tracks from file sharing. To be taken to court over one leaked album is ludicrous.

Say for example that one of the promo copies leaked on the net, who is the bigger criminal?
The leaker or the downloader?
Who is more likely to be caught?
What punishment would come of it from just one album?
At what cost would a record label take a person who illegally downloaded one album?

If anyone can provide a logical answer to any of those questions, be my guest.



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:59 pm
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Stuie wrote:
Say for example that one of the promo copies leaked on the net, who is the bigger criminal?
The leaker or the downloader?

The leaker.

Stuie wrote:
Who is more likely to be caught?

A random downloader.

Stuie wrote:
What punishment would come of it from just one album?

Some hundreds/thousands of dollars in order not to take him/her in court.

Stuie wrote:
At what cost would a record label take a person who illegally downloaded one album?

They do it a lot in some countries (USA mostly i think).


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:45 am
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Another way of watermarking...albeit more cool.

http://www.moillusions.com/2006/10/aphe ... usion.html


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:19 am
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Cabalist wrote:
Hahahaha! The CD has been watermarked for a reason! To stop impatient shits like yourselves from spreading it about. Just be patient for fuck sake, there's not that long to wait!


Doesn't necessarily relate to just The Prodge's



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:21 am
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June wrote:
Stuie wrote:

Stuie wrote:
Who is more likely to be caught?

A random downloader.


How exactly ?



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:28 am
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Harbinger wrote:
June wrote:
Stuie wrote:

Stuie wrote:
Who is more likely to be caught?

A random downloader.


How exactly ?


I think that they track down your IP address or something

I'am impatient my discbox will arrive later than everyone so i need the damn thing and its driving me craaaaaaaaazy


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:21 pm
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why not listen to an uploaded stream of it?

the the broadcaster could use someones wifi connection, no one is caught then unless its recorded......



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