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Jungle Vibes
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:17 am |
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Grunt Posts: 31Location: DublinJoined: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:58 pm
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Liam's new equipment seems to have made him very lazy live, I mean the two laptops that he uses. All he does now is press Play on the Laptop to start the track, I mean does he need all the other equipment on stage?, seem like an awfull waste. Does he even use the W30 anymore?? All the synths with him on stage is for nothing...
he might as well have just brought a backing track and one sampler to use fills with...
Back in the Nineties...It seemed and looked like Liam used to trigger samples live and use his keyboards to add extra sound now it seems he just does nothing but press a button on his Laptop to play the track
Can anyone post agument against this to get me to change my mind?
(Im sorry to be so hard on Liam)
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Cogglesz
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:43 am |
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General Posts: 6933Location: Scotland UKJoined: Wed May 23, 2007 2:57 pm
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sure thing jungle vibes i'll disagree with u to change your mind
liam uses the two laptops to trigger off certain parts of the tunes, if u have many live versions of action radar or hotride u can notice it because they all have different times of when things kick in, also in a few they get mixed in with the previous tune, basicly its liams new toy to triggering off the parts of songs and its much easier as well but at the same time it aint just a case of pushing play and thats it.
i listen to many of the old recordings and i have millions of them too, i've played keyboard since i was five and im a major fan of liam and his live keyboard work, i don't have many at all old gigs that play live keyboards, apart from the climbatize horns liam sampled on to one of his synths when minefields came on and throughout the BGAT and AONO era.
the new stuff for live keyboards is amazing, its the best buzz for me, liam goes pretty nuts with the keyboards in 2006 and early 2007's he comes up with some really good stuff when he plays the synths live, i remember a poll on here about everyones favourite era, i voted for the 05 to 07 era just simply because of liams live play, he got rid of the old stuff and came in with laptops, liam himself was really paranoid about going on stage with laptops instead of all his samplers etc, but once it was about late 2005 he turned it round and got really fucking good with live play, and he's fucking good at it, not because he's liam fucking howlett but because he learns music by ear, he can hear the track, then add extra bits on through synths with ease, anyone who knows how to play by ear know it, i used to have mental days when i'd sit in the house when everyones gone and switch a couple synths on and play extra bits and chords into prodigy tracks hahaha.
but honestly he's not doing it because he's so fucking lazy lol, he done it for the flexibilty of it, being able to let the fans hear the track differently than what they would on the cd, to give an extra vibe and more a punch.
i want you to watch this video if u have time mate, concintrate on liam and the live play, this live recording is by far one of the greatest live playing i've seen from him, its prauge 2006 and the live play starts before the tune !!
but liams live play with voodoo people on this recording is the fucking best, if you aint happy bout what your hearing at the start (their law & firestarter) then voodoo people will certainly tell u what i mean bout fucking good live play, and in this vid, you need to remember he has to control all the volumes and maxim and keiths mic effects, and also you only see liam at his laptop when theres nothing playing, because he's loading up SMBU
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc ... 1686969148
and i hope this aint too much a read, i know many people can't be bothered reading all this, and yeah liam is lazy but with live play he usually aint now adays, hope i switched u to my side with the gear mate
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TMWKTM
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:34 am |
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Well I wish he'd press "play" and play Gabba or Everybody In The Place or something
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FLAME-XIII
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:45 am |
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Majestic 13Posts: 2641Location: RussiaJoined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:52 pm
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Jungle Vibes wrote: I mean the two laptops that he uses three actually TMWKTM wrote: Well I wish he'd press "play" and play Gabba or Everybody In The Place or something  i believe that he don't have those tracks in his winamp
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Nuno
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:57 am |
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FLAME-XIII wrote: TMWKTM wrote: Well I wish he'd press "play" and play Gabba or Everybody In The Place or something  i believe that he don't have those tracks in his winamp 
i have heard that he still haven't figured out a way to rip the DAT tapes to mp3. if anyone can help him out please advice
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TheBitchUhated
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:20 am |
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Private Posts: 215Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:15 am
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100% agreed with Cogglesz
And about gabba and all that, he could just do it oldskool with the DATs if he really wanted.. Wouldn't that be the coolest  On the count of four...one,two.. onetwothreefour!!
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Jericho-X
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:28 am |
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General Posts: 2502Location: NorwayJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:27 pm
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Jungle Vibes wrote: Liam's new equipment seems to have made him very lazy live, I mean the two laptops that he uses. All he does now is press Play on the Laptop to start the track, I mean does he need all the other equipment on stage?, seem like an awfull waste. Does he even use the W30 anymore?? All the synths with him on stage is for nothing... he might as well have just brought a backing track and one sampler to use fills with... Back in the Nineties...It seemed and looked like Liam used to trigger samples live and use his keyboards to add extra sound now it seems he just does nothing but press a button on his Laptop to play the track Can anyone post agument against this to get me to change my mind? (Im sorry to be so hard on Liam)
Now now--- be careful.... Some people started a topic like this on Nekosite couple of years ago.... And Liam responded in the old diary.
"Let me tell you pricks what I do live....."
It was pretty funny. People couldn't argue with his repsonse so.
I'm too lazy to find the links now.. Search for yourself
And he has two laptops in case one of them crash btw.
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Yeah Geil
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:59 pm |
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Colonel Posts: 935Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:29 am
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TMWKTM wrote: Well I wish he'd press "play" and play Gabba or Everybody In The Place or something 
i wish i was older...
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Kubazz
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:24 pm |
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General Posts: 1730Joined: Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:12 pm
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Loong time ago liam said:
Quote: To play the whole set live would be impossible for us because we'd need about four operators and all the equipment, which I don't want to get into. We have a backing DAT live which has the body of the track with different bits left out so I can play live over the top. All the samples are played live, but not the main riffs in case something messes up!
so nothing has really changed, he used to use DAT's, now he uses laptops and it's only difference.
watch blow ya mind from phoenix96 for example and you'll see that it's played from half-playback.
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zbyniu
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:47 pm |
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General Posts: 1883Location: PolandJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:08 am
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Kubazz wrote: half-playback
is it callled "live act"?
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:29 pm |
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Private Posts: 287Location: US of AJoined: Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:06 pm
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Using Live on the laptops I'm sure leaves things open to much more flexibility and on-the-fly edits.
If you think he just pushes play on the laptop and off it goes, how is that any different then pushing play on the DAT and the W-30's from the pre-Ableton days?
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Cogglesz
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:49 pm |
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General Posts: 6933Location: Scotland UKJoined: Wed May 23, 2007 2:57 pm
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now i'll try to explain the thing about not playing the old old stuff, liam did play some of the popular things back in late 05 and early 06 in the uk and in tokyo, some remixes of the old unreleased stuff would be pretty shit hot of course, but i think liams trying to build up the new fans from all across the place for this new album, if liams got the world on his side his albums gonna be number 1, playing the old old stuff live like everybody in the place and gabba would be great for the people up there at the front, but liam and the bands new look doesn't go either and im sure for most people going to a prodigy gig for the first time would find it old sounding, gabba wasn't ment for live drums and a guitar, the same with EBINP but at the same time it would be fucking awesome if liam did play them but i think this new style they've got means from this year onword there not going back into the past but i bet they will still play firestarter and smack my bitch up and most likley their law, but a new version of wake the fuck up would be good to kick off the new intro
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Jungle Vibes
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:00 pm |
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Grunt Posts: 31Location: DublinJoined: Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:58 pm
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Thanks Cogglesz for putting up that cool link, and many thanks for converting me back to idolising Liam as a true genious!! I take back what I said. He does do a lot when live, and the power of the tunes can only be of benefit of using the Ableton live programs, man i thought Voodoo was cool!! Its a very clear link, and it made me realise that maybe when you see them live you probably dont notice whats happening with the mahem on stage, but once again thank you......Prodigy forever!!!
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Cogglesz
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:06 pm |
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General Posts: 6933Location: Scotland UKJoined: Wed May 23, 2007 2:57 pm
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that is true what u say about the mayhem on stage
your buzzing so much that u think its just the studio version hahaha
and im glad i helped u man, keep those ears open for the good shit
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:27 pm |
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Corporal Posts: 358Location: EnglandJoined: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:10 pm
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the person on this rant needs to go to a new prodigy gig liam does more now than he ever did imo, i her more extra sounds than i ever have,
for instance last time i saw the prodigy the fills/jams rockedd
i have a mate who is a sound tech for a band and dj it is a lot harder tha n ya think ,
i feel the need to defend liam cos it isnt just a case of pressing the space bar
rant over
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