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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:08 pm
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http://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech/ ... ved-197911

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3.. "My breaks lack weight"
For many of today's producers – those who are focused on maximising available bandwidth as much as possible before their limiter plug-in starts to sound like a distortion pedal – what we're about to suggest may induce panic. However, this old-school technique, a long-time favourite of The Prodigy's Liam Howlett, might just be one of the best kept secrets in dance music.

Set up an FX channel with a long plate reverb followed by a low-pass filter set to around 60Hz. Send all your drum tracks to this FX channel and mix it in softly to add a booming warehouse effect.



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:55 pm
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http://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech/7-breakbeat-production-problems-solved-197911

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3.. "My breaks lack weight"
For many of today's producers – those who are focused on maximising available bandwidth as much as possible before their limiter plug-in starts to sound like a distortion pedal – what we're about to suggest may induce panic. However, this old-school technique, a long-time favourite of The Prodigy's Liam Howlett, might just be one of the best kept secrets in dance music.

Set up an FX channel with a long plate reverb followed by a low-pass filter set to around 60Hz. Send all your drum tracks to this FX channel and mix it in softly to add a booming warehouse effect.
Waoh! My "music technic english" is too bad to understand all that!

Il will try to send my mpc to my reverb then to my mooger fooger, we will see. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:43 am
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uhhh...I have a feeling that trick will not work the way it sounds.

Do they just mean to do that on one track and add another layer of the same break/sample over it, or just use that fx track on its own?



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uhhh...I have a feeling that trick will not work the way it sounds.

Do they just mean to do that on one track and add another layer of the same break/sample over it, or just use that fx track on its own?


They mean: Whatever drum patterns / breaks samples you have, aux send a little bit of each one of them to the reverb decribed. Definitely don't send too much 'cos it'll ruin/overpower the rest of your mix. Have a little listen to the drum pattern on Meat Beat Manifesto's 'Radio Babylon' to get the general idea, but then take away all frequencies above 60HZ and get the result to sit well in the mix using the aux sends and adjusting the reverb time (don't make it too long...more than 1.5 seconds is probably too much, depending on the speed of your track).



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:07 pm
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Up!

With the new neko itw, we know he still uses reason+ableton+logic, and he can lead a project till the end.

Ah, and for the hardware, we can add (ti polar+moog voyager+Sh101) kaoss pad (off course) and arturia analog factory

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the question still "what the hell he does with the polar??"
voice treatment?

*what is this strange board he uses instead of the big roland reverb on the same rack he puts his sh 101 ?


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Are these some of the stuff Liam is using in the studio these days??...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/the-prodig ... otostream/ (Oberheim Two Voice)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/the-prodig ... otostream/ (Virus TI Polar Synth and a Pendulum Audio Quartet Tube Recording Channel)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/the-prodigy/2947187450/ (Apple Logic Pro .. with lots of tracks)


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liam using the analogue factory, wheres the proof ?



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:41 am
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liam using the analogue factory, wheres the proof ?
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jesus christ, thats the last keyboard i'd ever think he'd have, its a good vst none the less just its the fact its a vst



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:34 pm
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Are these some of the stuff Liam is using in the studio these days??...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/the-prodig ... otostream/ (Anyone know what this one is??)

Oberheim 2 Voice


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live4ever2008 wrote:
Are these some of the stuff Liam is using in the studio these days??...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/the-prodig ... otostream/ (Anyone know what this one is??)

Oberheim 2 Voice


Cheers, i thought in an interview for remixmag from 2004 for AONO he said he was using a Oberheim Four Voice not a Two voice?

Its alright, I just checked an equipment list on a site n it says he has both the 2 n 4 voice models


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Are there some updated synth-geeks here who knows what synth the dirty bassline from warriors dance comes from? Seems like Liam used the same synth on a few tracks on IMD. Bassline on WD and Thunder have a very cool and fresh sound. I allso think he used some of the same sounds on piranha



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Probably the Moog for WD.


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One thing I truly miss on the last two records is the clear and defined drumsound of MFTJG and FOTL. On MFTJG the sound was maybe worse mixed (by todays industry-standards), but more easy to see through, cos it wasn't so awfully brickwall-limited. On FOTL he used the incredible SP-1200, which makes drums sound so fucking punchy and the always appreciated "Burn-The-Mackie"-distortion. On AONO everything was shit anyway and IMD lacks the dynamic. I'd love to get an unmastered version of IMD, or at least one without the horrible limiting. It sounds like shit and I hate the record just for the fact that I'm forced to listen to muddy drumsounds and ridiculously loud RMS.

I will never understand some of Liams choices.

Okay, you don't wanna repeat yourself, but please, if you go on all the time about "the beats and the energy are important to our music blabla", then at least make the beats punchy again. Get the SP-1200 back, set up your own goddamn real studio and get back to creative sampling.

I also miss a lot the JD-990-sounds like the bassline to B&E or the Poison synthies and all that. That was, alongside the U-220 strings, my personal trademark of the Prodigys sound. Plus the goddamn good mixing of the FOTL, which in my opinion will never be achieved by anyone on this planet ever again. The sound esthetics of this record goes uncopied, still after more than 11 years.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:34 pm
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Totally OK with that! I love the sound design of drums ont FOTL, really hip hop, with heavy and hardworked sample. But, on the last one, world's onf fire is not so far. But okay, just one title... :cry:

He says he hates BGT, but i think it's one of his best track for the sound: the real heavy analog keys sound+ amazing "organic" beats.


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