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freehandjunkie
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:04 pm |
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mirko_fodor wrote: freehandjunkie wrote: mirko_fodor wrote: freehandjunkie wrote: agree with warriors dance choice completley, one of the worst tracks liam has wrote imo sorry for this man,but i must say to you: go f**k yoursef!! apologizes for such language but this is the worst sentence i've heard in past few years my opinion dude, for me its a bit of a cheesy, lazy, under produced track, the beginning sax etc is great but the sample and the beats in the middle are really poor for me, really lacks that prodigy energy, lets be honest anyone could of wrote that track, liam is a master of the manipulation of a sample but this track is terrible and the sample too obvious.. this track will probably do really well as a single and will be really popular with people but for me it aint about that, i dont care about charts, its one of the weakest tracks liam has done now,that IS opinion..i respect other opinions even i'm not agree with them but what i wrote it's my first expression seeing your sentence about WD..don't get it too personal i know that liam is master of samples and beats and peaces,but he isn't young anymore,he is not as creative as he was in 90's..i mean,he is,but from time to time he changed his direction of writing,he was finding something new (maybe not as good as everybody was expecting) and i agree that WD is very poor track compared with other older 'rich-of-sounds' tunes but there is some fuckin' energy in WD which make me wanna dance..even i think i could break on it starting with long uprock actully,i was in that music from early & mid 90's, so, i don't know,maybe it reminds me of that dance/rave era. it's like bit of nostalgia,and that cheesy voice for me is the peak,right to the roots,very undergrounded
don't agree with you about him not as being creative, we all look back but its a retrospective look and that sometimes clouds your judgement. what i am saying about the track is not related to the greatness of past prodigy material, i'm judging it alongside the rest of IMD and it is very poor against the likes of IMD, Colours, Take me to the Hospital, Run with the wolves and omen. it is a journey back to to 1992 with this track but not in a good way for me, TMTTH is also a journey back to 1992 but in such a way that it makes WD look very weak.... the cheesy voice and samples makes this track like any other boring covered dance record that shite dj's and producers bring out for summer and all the ibiza fools.....it doesnt for me represent the prodigy at all
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GeneralPosts: 1999Location: Cork - IrelandJoined: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:08 am
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experience: death of prodigy dancer
mftgj: one love
fotl: euhm.... usually used to skip climbatize
AONO: girls or spitfire (heard that 1 too often)
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:24 pm |
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freehandjunkie wrote: mirko_fodor wrote: freehandjunkie wrote: mirko_fodor wrote: freehandjunkie wrote: agree with warriors dance choice completley, one of the worst tracks liam has wrote imo sorry for this man,but i must say to you: go f**k yoursef!! apologizes for such language but this is the worst sentence i've heard in past few years my opinion dude, for me its a bit of a cheesy, lazy, under produced track, the beginning sax etc is great but the sample and the beats in the middle are really poor for me, really lacks that prodigy energy, lets be honest anyone could of wrote that track, liam is a master of the manipulation of a sample but this track is terrible and the sample too obvious.. this track will probably do really well as a single and will be really popular with people but for me it aint about that, i dont care about charts, its one of the weakest tracks liam has done now,that IS opinion..i respect other opinions even i'm not agree with them but what i wrote it's my first expression seeing your sentence about WD..don't get it too personal i know that liam is master of samples and beats and peaces,but he isn't young anymore,he is not as creative as he was in 90's..i mean,he is,but from time to time he changed his direction of writing,he was finding something new (maybe not as good as everybody was expecting) and i agree that WD is very poor track compared with other older 'rich-of-sounds' tunes but there is some fuckin' energy in WD which make me wanna dance..even i think i could break on it starting with long uprock actully,i was in that music from early & mid 90's, so, i don't know,maybe it reminds me of that dance/rave era. it's like bit of nostalgia,and that cheesy voice for me is the peak,right to the roots,very undergrounded don't agree with you about him not as being creative, we all look back but its a retrospective look and that sometimes clouds your judgement. what i am saying about the track is not related to the greatness of past prodigy material, i'm judging it alongside the rest of IMD and it is very poor against the likes of IMD, Colours, Take me to the Hospital, Run with the wolves and omen. it is a journey back to to 1992 with this track but not in a good way for me, TMTTH is also a journey back to 1992 but in such a way that it makes WD look very weak.... the cheesy voice and samples makes this track like any other boring covered dance record that shite dj's and producers bring out for summer and all the ibiza fools.....it doesnt for me represent the prodigy at all
yes,but there is so many ways to take journey back to 1992 and one is successfully done by WD..
you can't say 'it's one of the worst track liam ever wrote'..you should be more realistic instead of subjective..i don't even like RWTW,for me it's the shit,the weakest track from album and i don't like it at all (IMD too)but otherwise it still fits in whole work and sounds pretty mean. what about fuel my fire,speedway,get up get off and other 'not-good' tracks?
WD is just one of hundred ways of tripping to that old era and it's good (not excellent,not supreme,but very good) especially because of that cheesy voice which was the main part of most of old tunes,it's a sweaty tune.
i remember when i heard it live for the first time on InMusic festival last year i was like 'oh shit this is it'..i was crazy. and i'm very meticulous about liam's music,so WD isn't and can't be as bad as you said
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freehandjunkie
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:07 pm |
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mirko_fodor wrote: freehandjunkie wrote: mirko_fodor wrote: freehandjunkie wrote: mirko_fodor wrote: freehandjunkie wrote: agree with warriors dance choice completley, one of the worst tracks liam has wrote imo sorry for this man,but i must say to you: go f**k yoursef!! apologizes for such language but this is the worst sentence i've heard in past few years my opinion dude, for me its a bit of a cheesy, lazy, under produced track, the beginning sax etc is great but the sample and the beats in the middle are really poor for me, really lacks that prodigy energy, lets be honest anyone could of wrote that track, liam is a master of the manipulation of a sample but this track is terrible and the sample too obvious.. this track will probably do really well as a single and will be really popular with people but for me it aint about that, i dont care about charts, its one of the weakest tracks liam has done now,that IS opinion..i respect other opinions even i'm not agree with them but what i wrote it's my first expression seeing your sentence about WD..don't get it too personal i know that liam is master of samples and beats and peaces,but he isn't young anymore,he is not as creative as he was in 90's..i mean,he is,but from time to time he changed his direction of writing,he was finding something new (maybe not as good as everybody was expecting) and i agree that WD is very poor track compared with other older 'rich-of-sounds' tunes but there is some fuckin' energy in WD which make me wanna dance..even i think i could break on it starting with long uprock actully,i was in that music from early & mid 90's, so, i don't know,maybe it reminds me of that dance/rave era. it's like bit of nostalgia,and that cheesy voice for me is the peak,right to the roots,very undergrounded don't agree with you about him not as being creative, we all look back but its a retrospective look and that sometimes clouds your judgement. what i am saying about the track is not related to the greatness of past prodigy material, i'm judging it alongside the rest of IMD and it is very poor against the likes of IMD, Colours, Take me to the Hospital, Run with the wolves and omen. it is a journey back to to 1992 with this track but not in a good way for me, TMTTH is also a journey back to 1992 but in such a way that it makes WD look very weak.... the cheesy voice and samples makes this track like any other boring covered dance record that shite dj's and producers bring out for summer and all the ibiza fools.....it doesnt for me represent the prodigy at all yes,but there is so many ways to take journey back to 1992 and one is successfully done by WD.. you can't say 'it's one of the worst track liam ever wrote'..you should be more realistic instead of subjective..i don't even like RWTW,for me it's the shit,the weakest track from album and i don't like it at all (IMD too)but otherwise it still fits in whole work and sounds pretty mean. what about fuel my fire,speedway,get up get off and other 'not-good' tracks? WD is just one of hundred ways of tripping to that old era and it's good (not excellent,not supreme,but very good) especially because of that cheesy voice which was the main part of most of old tunes,it's a sweaty tune. i remember when i heard it live for the first time on InMusic festival last year i was like 'oh shit this is it'..i was crazy. and i'm very meticulous about liam's music,so WD isn't and can't be as bad as you said
look, i have my opinion you have yours, we dont agree, you think you are correct and i do, thats life, the stuff that makes people interesting...i can say what i like about this track as can you, but PLEASE do not try and educate me about this band or any music, i know this track is by far one of the poorest tracks they have done, i'm NOT saying it wont be popular, i'm NOT saying they think that or anyone else does, im giving my opinion, my feelings on the subject...dont get agitated because you don't agree that aint cool, i could easily say to you clearly dont have much idea about music if you think IMD is poor but man thats your opinion and thats cool....you need to stop being so blinkered and realise people have different ideas of what's good and what isnt.
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:31 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 1999Location: Cork - IrelandJoined: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:08 am
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:29 pm |
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LieutenantPosts: 579Location: BulgariaJoined: Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:58 pm
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If I may add another opinion, without quoting the whole conversation.
I think it comes down to genre preferences. For me Warrior's Dance is perhaps one of the best tracks in its genre, but I'm not a great fan of the genre, therefore I don't like it very much. On the other hand, tunes like Fuel My Fire and Run With The Wolves might not be the very best in their genre, but I fuckin love them anyway.
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:07 pm |
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ModeratorPosts: 2211Location: Oslo, NorwayJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:48 pm
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....a n d on that note, let's get this thread back on track!
Experience: None
Jilted: One Love
Fat: Narayan (will listen up untill the vocals kick in)
AONO: Shoot Down
IMD: Piranha
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:43 am |
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freehandjunkie wrote: mirko_fodor wrote: freehandjunkie wrote: mirko_fodor wrote: freehandjunkie wrote: mirko_fodor wrote: freehandjunkie wrote: agree with warriors dance choice completley, one of the worst tracks liam has wrote imo sorry for this man,but i must say to you: go f**k yoursef!! apologizes for such language but this is the worst sentence i've heard in past few years my opinion dude, for me its a bit of a cheesy, lazy, under produced track, the beginning sax etc is great but the sample and the beats in the middle are really poor for me, really lacks that prodigy energy, lets be honest anyone could of wrote that track, liam is a master of the manipulation of a sample but this track is terrible and the sample too obvious.. this track will probably do really well as a single and will be really popular with people but for me it aint about that, i dont care about charts, its one of the weakest tracks liam has done now,that IS opinion..i respect other opinions even i'm not agree with them but what i wrote it's my first expression seeing your sentence about WD..don't get it too personal i know that liam is master of samples and beats and peaces,but he isn't young anymore,he is not as creative as he was in 90's..i mean,he is,but from time to time he changed his direction of writing,he was finding something new (maybe not as good as everybody was expecting) and i agree that WD is very poor track compared with other older 'rich-of-sounds' tunes but there is some fuckin' energy in WD which make me wanna dance..even i think i could break on it starting with long uprock actully,i was in that music from early & mid 90's, so, i don't know,maybe it reminds me of that dance/rave era. it's like bit of nostalgia,and that cheesy voice for me is the peak,right to the roots,very undergrounded don't agree with you about him not as being creative, we all look back but its a retrospective look and that sometimes clouds your judgement. what i am saying about the track is not related to the greatness of past prodigy material, i'm judging it alongside the rest of IMD and it is very poor against the likes of IMD, Colours, Take me to the Hospital, Run with the wolves and omen. it is a journey back to to 1992 with this track but not in a good way for me, TMTTH is also a journey back to 1992 but in such a way that it makes WD look very weak.... the cheesy voice and samples makes this track like any other boring covered dance record that shite dj's and producers bring out for summer and all the ibiza fools.....it doesnt for me represent the prodigy at all yes,but there is so many ways to take journey back to 1992 and one is successfully done by WD.. you can't say 'it's one of the worst track liam ever wrote'..you should be more realistic instead of subjective..i don't even like RWTW,for me it's the shit,the weakest track from album and i don't like it at all (IMD too)but otherwise it still fits in whole work and sounds pretty mean. what about fuel my fire,speedway,get up get off and other 'not-good' tracks? WD is just one of hundred ways of tripping to that old era and it's good (not excellent,not supreme,but very good) especially because of that cheesy voice which was the main part of most of old tunes,it's a sweaty tune. i remember when i heard it live for the first time on InMusic festival last year i was like 'oh shit this is it'..i was crazy. and i'm very meticulous about liam's music,so WD isn't and can't be as bad as you said look, i have my opinion you have yours, we dont agree, you think you are correct and i do, thats life, the stuff that makes people interesting...i can say what i like about this track as can you, but PLEASE do not try and educate me about this band or any music, i know this track is by far one of the poorest tracks they have done, i'm NOT saying it wont be popular, i'm NOT saying they think that or anyone else does, im giving my opinion, my feelings on the subject...dont get agitated because you don't agree that aint cool, i could easily say to you clearly dont have much idea about music if you think IMD is poor but man thats your opinion and thats cool....you need to stop being so blinkered and realise people have different ideas of what's good and what isnt.
why you think i'm trying to educate you about this band or any music? i don't..i don't care,like i don't care about chart positions and popularity of WD..i'm just about saying that your first post 'hurts' my feelings and i needed to react about that..it's my democratic right to react..i'm very sensitive about the prodigy,i'm a little princess when we talk about prodigy,i'm like a dewdrop in early spring morning when it's about prodigy,blah blah..
so obviously,we don't understand each other and that's life,i agree,what can i say..
so,WD is very poor,one of the worst track ever,but still has some energy-that could be universal opinion..or not
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:46 pm |
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Here goes mine:
Experience - DOTPD
MFTJG - One love (100% sure for this album - in another one maybe)
FOTL - Fuel My Fire (Serial Thrilla was enough)
AONO - all of them
IMD - Omen Reprise (not even a track...)
To freehandjunkie:
My dear prodigy fan, you are that kind of person that is too stubborn.
WD it s not the highlight of the album. That s for sure. But i bet it s the only one that makes all of us dance. That was Prodigy all about. The rhythm.
Another person stated that "No good" is shit!!! F..k that! How can you call yourself a fan!?!?! If we return back to 94-95 No good was BIG! Even now can stand in the market, easily.
As you said, all resumes to the people. Good or bad.
But is also my opinion that you are definitely wrong!!! Maybe it s cheesy or whatever, but it s a 100% Prodigy track. Some of us are nostalgic. Don t forget about that. Maybe you are that kind of person that asks too much. It s not bad, but it s not easy at all. And sometimes we need simple tracks to enjoy the ring dance.........
That would be all from me.
A lovely day,
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:22 pm |
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pipes wrote: Here goes mine:
Experience - DOTPD MFTJG - One love (100% sure for this album - in another one maybe) FOTL - Fuel My Fire (Serial Thrilla was enough) AONO - all of them IMD - Omen Reprise (not even a track...)
To freehandjunkie:
My dear prodigy fan, you are that kind of person that is too stubborn. WD it s not the highlight of the album. That s for sure. But i bet it s the only one that makes all of us dance. That was Prodigy all about. The rhythm. Another person stated that "No good" is shit!!! F..k that! How can you call yourself a fan!?!?! If we return back to 94-95 No good was BIG! Even now can stand in the market, easily. As you said, all resumes to the people. Good or bad. But is also my opinion that you are definitely wrong!!! Maybe it s cheesy or whatever, but it s a 100% Prodigy track. Some of us are nostalgic. Don t forget about that. Maybe you are that kind of person that asks too much. It s not bad, but it s not easy at all. And sometimes we need simple tracks to enjoy the ring dance......... That would be all from me. A lovely day, S
its good we don't agree thats what makes music interesting and especially prodigy music, it divides people, right or wrong, your comparing No good to WD which in my opinion your digging your self a very big hole but carry on, your saying that its only WD that will make everyone dance? eh? on the whole of IMD that is the only tune, well my friend it must be a very poor album in your mind then... having a look at your choices of tracks you would skip, you say on AONO you would skip them all? think you really need to sit and listen to the album and understand what in fact a really good album that is, its amusing how people can't take criticism of a track they love yet dismiss a whole album out of hand..strange that..anyways...
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:53 pm |
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Hello,
Yes, on AONO i would skip them all. ALL OF THEM. It s not The Prodigy. Even Liam said that. It s his album. The Prodigy it s not only Liam. Its much more. And you should know that......
Who was comparing WD with No good?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?
I think you are totally out of this conversation or not understanding very well what we are saying.
Yes, WD it s the most danceable of them all. Even if you like it or not. And we are talking about spirit, not composition. This is what you do not understand or don't want to understand.
I will not argue with you anymore.
Big respect from me,
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:57 pm |
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holy fuck, theres more writting on here than my next gen consoles thread, chill the fuck out guys ?
i mean read the topic name, if u had to skip one track, so stop bitching to each other about tracks, everyones open to opinions so leave it at that
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:07 pm |
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pipes wrote: Hello, Yes, on AONO i would skip them all. ALL OF THEM. It s not The Prodigy. Even Liam said that. It s his album. The Prodigy it s not only Liam. Its much more. And you should know that...... Who was comparing WD with No good?!?!?!??!?!?!?!? I think you are totally out of this conversation or not understanding very well what we are saying. Yes, WD it s the most danceable of them all. Even if you like it or not. And we are talking about spirit, not composition. This is what you do not understand or don't want to understand. I will not argue with you anymore. Big respect from me, S
ok so in your eyes this song is about the spirit and not how its composed, so your basically saying is he's taking a classic sample for the sake of it and added a few beats to make it danceable! because this is a retro record as liam has said..or wait a minute thats exactly the opposite of what he said... so AONO is not a prodigy album now? ok..look man we DONT agree i think WD is a really poor track and by far one of the weakest liam has ever written..you don't think that and thats cool..don't get all angry because i don't agree...i love these fans who come out of the closet when an album is released then throw their toys out of the pram when people disagree with them...dude just relax its only an opinion... come back in 6 years when the next album is done and moan when someone doesnt agree with you..... later
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:15 pm |
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:33 pm |
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GruntPosts: 24Location: BucharestJoined: Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:15 pm
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bla bla bla, little mozart
p.s. explain someone to the one mentioned above what happened with AONO. or something. )
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