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Ekko
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 9:20 am |
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Sergeant Posts: 478Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:38 am
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the_one wrote: buttons wrote: Quote: Regarded by many as one of the best DJ mixes ever released... It is great...but seriously...no where near the best. Not complaining, they just make it out to sound like it is a masterpiece. It kinda is a masterpiece, for Liam anyway as its all the tracks he really likes, and its done well! Personally i wouldnt call it a DJ mix though, there is no way he did that using decks and a mixer, there is just too much going on too quickly. Im sure it was done with software, which is cool but not a 'DJ' mix.
Absolutely. Every serious DJ will confirm it's impossible to mix 50 something minutes without mistake like this, even for the How.
In the sleeve you can see one turntable and the SP1200, so it's most likely he soldered everything together in the Mac.
But I also don't mind, cos it's a mint mix and it sound absolutey cool and unheard to me, even now after 10 years (gosh!)
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Otis P Jivefunk
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 12:21 pm |
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General Posts: 1780Location: EnglandJoined: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:06 pm
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Liam's DJ Mixes are the best I've heard hands down, but I haven't heard very many tbh. The only other ones I've really heard are the ones they play in CULT clothing stores...
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Cabalist
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:11 am |
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Private Posts: 239Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:51 pm
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Quote: Regarded by many as one of the best DJ mixes ever released...
That's bollocks!
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buttons
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:47 am |
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Private Posts: 198Location: Location, Location.Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:41 pm
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Cabalist wrote: Quote: Regarded by many as one of the best DJ mixes ever released... That's bollocks!
thank god someone agrees with me...
I mean cut and paste really shows no talent or style.
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Warrior
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:06 am |
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General Posts: 2089Location: Melbourne, AustraliaJoined: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:22 pm
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cut n paste isnt a dj mix is it. its good for what it is.
liams other live mix bootlegs were good too. i wish the 91' mix i have wasnt fucking mono!!
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the_one
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:45 am |
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Private Posts: 119Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:11 am
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A lot of his old mixes ive heard are not actually that good, i could mix better, no seriously i could! There were plenty of old skool hardcore DJ's that were way better than LH. Until you can mix yourself you dont even notice half of the mistakes that DJ's make!
But i saw him play in the VIP tent at the very first Gatecrasher VS Ministry Of Sound at Lotherton Hall in Leeds back in 97 or 98 i think it was, he played a lot of breaks n beats and i have to say i was well impressed, i guess he's got better with experience cause he was right on it that night chopping things up nicely.
And god only knows why they put him in the tiny VIP tent, he should have been in the main one instead of Judge Jules!
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Squarelab
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 10:06 am |
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Grunt Posts: 91Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:52 pm
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Ekko wrote: the_one wrote: buttons wrote: Quote: Regarded by many as one of the best DJ mixes ever released... It kinda is a masterpiece, for Liam anyway as its all the tracks he really likes, and its done well! Personally i wouldnt call it a DJ mix though, there is no way he did that using decks and a mixer, there is just too much going on too quickly. Im sure it was done with software, which is cool but not a 'DJ' mix.
Software wasn't used, but he did use an 8 track recorder which means there's four lots of stereo channels going on in the mix at the same time (or one after the other). You can record certain parts at various different times and he most likely didn't do it all in one go. He probably pre-decided which parts of which tracks would flow into the next ones, and then gradually built it up, re-recording sections to get them just right.
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The Last Ninja
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 2:23 pm |
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Major Posts: 708Location: Adelaide, AustraliaJoined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:57 pm
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"Cut and paste shows no talent or style"
Contender for most obsurd ignorant statement ever.
It's a fucking studio mix. big fucking deal.
Does it rock? Yeah it fucking does!
Where is the problem?
EDIT! : listen to the interview with that chick Hobbs on RADIO 1 before the Breezeblock mix. Where he says he did it in the studio where he could "get a better result".
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Ekko
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:58 pm |
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Sergeant Posts: 478Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:38 am
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Squarelab wrote: Software wasn't used, but he did use an 8 track recorder which means there's four lots of stereo channels going on in the mix at the same time (or one after the other). You can record certain parts at various different times and he most likely didn't do it all in one go. He probably pre-decided which parts of which tracks would flow into the next ones, and then gradually built it up, re-recording sections to get them just right.
Interesting. SOurce?
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buttons
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 10:15 pm |
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Private Posts: 198Location: Location, Location.Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:41 pm
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The Last Ninja wrote: "Cut and paste shows no talent or style"
Contender for most obsurd ignorant statement ever.
It's a fucking studio mix. big fucking deal.
Does it rock? Yeah it fucking does!
Where is the problem?
EDIT! : listen to the interview with that chick Hobbs on RADIO 1 before the Breezeblock mix. Where he says he did it in the studio where he could "get a better result".
I was just as equally taken back at the statement about it being considered one of the best dj mixes. I am reacting to that statement and pointing out flaws in it. Look man if you listen to it a lot of the music is just kinda "there" and it seems he isn't going anywhere with it. I mean Liam is not god or anything and I enjoy the mix it is just no where near any of the best dj sets ever.
I knew by saying it is not that great people were gunna attack me but oh well. To some people Liam can do no wrong go figure.
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The Last Ninja
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 6:15 am |
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Major Posts: 708Location: Adelaide, AustraliaJoined: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:57 pm
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Well hey, nobody is saying he's god, and Liam doesn't hit ahomerun everytime he does a tune. How can he?
If you think my reaction to you saying that Liam used no talent or style to create The Dirtchamber sessions was an "attack" then you are reading too much into what I said. Hardly an "ATTAAAAAAAAACK" at all.. Meanwhile people in other topics are getting told their "ears are full of shit" and they "must be fucking deaf or stupid" because their opinion differs from others...
I've got no reason or need for a grudge against you or to cause you to have one against me, but in all seriousness the Dirtchamber sessions is not JUST a "cut & Paste job" and really it does take skill and some talent to even know what musically mixes well with other music and to know how to do that. Even when it is done by a cut and paste method it still takes skill and style..
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Otis P Jivefunk
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:42 am |
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General Posts: 1780Location: EnglandJoined: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:06 pm
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Between Fat Of The Land and AONO we had Dirtchamber Vol 1. Between AONO and Invaders Must Die was had Their Law The Singles. It only makes sense that we have something between Invaders Must Die and the next album. Dirtchamber Vol 2 seems most likely. Unless they ever put out a live DVD/CD combo, which I don't see happening unfortunately...
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Squarelab
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:21 pm |
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Grunt Posts: 91Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:52 pm
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Ekko wrote: Squarelab wrote: Software wasn't used, but he did use an 8 track recorder which means there's four lots of stereo channels going on in the mix at the same time (or one after the other). You can record certain parts at various different times and he most likely didn't do it all in one go. He probably pre-decided which parts of which tracks would flow into the next ones, and then gradually built it up, re-recording sections to get them just right.
Interesting. SOurce?
Yeah, check out the beginning of the Marie-Ann Hobbs session where Liam did the original mix. He mentions use of an 8 track recorder. If your not sure what one is, look up a Tascam DA88. That'll tell you a bit more
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buttons
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:49 pm |
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Private Posts: 198Location: Location, Location.Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:41 pm
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The Last Ninja wrote: Well hey, nobody is saying he's god, and Liam doesn't hit ahomerun everytime he does a tune. How can he?
If you think my reaction to you saying that Liam used no talent or style to create The Dirtchamber sessions was an "attack" then you are reading too much into what I said. Hardly an "ATTAAAAAAAAACK" at all.. Meanwhile people in other topics are getting told their "ears are full of shit" and they "must be fucking deaf or stupid" because their opinion differs from others...
I've got no reason or need for a grudge against you or to cause you to have one against me, but in all seriousness the Dirtchamber sessions is not JUST a "cut & Paste job" and really it does take skill and some talent to even know what musically mixes well with other music and to know how to do that. Even when it is done by a cut and paste method it still takes skill and style..
Fair enough man. I still like his mix I just tend to be harsh on dj stuff. I'm glad we could keep it civil. The only thing that disapointed me about the album is he didn't twist the sounds or personalize them...I feel as if he has the talent to mash things in new ways like aono but he didn't really pull that off. Maybe it was just a springboard for his thinking going into aono?
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