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Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:03 pm |
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omen, stand up, IMD, worlds on fire, trigger/shootdown, heatwave, dead ken beats, mescaline, big gundown, girls, run with the wolves, hotride .. just to name a few - are all based on samples 'n sounds produced by others.
without a doubt, liam is a great producer. granted. but recently i feel he samples too much and i wish he'd just stick to himself. i don't know but it kinda bothers me when he uses too much of a sample 2 create a song.
is it a sign of creativity or just lack of originality?
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Anubis
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:12 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 1024Location: Brasov , RomâniaJoined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:06 pm
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i think liam is sampling since day 1, since the demo tape , it's full of samples
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TDT
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:14 pm |
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LieutenantPosts: 578Location: RomaniaJoined: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:08 am
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Anubis wrote: i think liam is sampling since day 1, since the demo tape , it's full of samples
True. It's not that he samples a lot, it's WHAT he does with those samples - and that's what makes his music great. I prefer that to any "original" sound today.
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Anubis
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:15 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 1024Location: Brasov , RomâniaJoined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:06 pm
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liam = sampler
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Blacklabel
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:22 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 1947Joined: Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:16 pm
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Bad artists copy. Good artists steal. - Pablo Picasso
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Anubis
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:30 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 1024Location: Brasov , RomâniaJoined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:06 pm
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to take from one source is copying but from more sources is documentation or something like that
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Warrior
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:45 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 2089Location: Melbourne, AustraliaJoined: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:22 pm
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i think hes capable of working without samples. but its become his thing.
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nucleartitan
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:10 am |
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GeneralPosts: 2923Location: italyJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:44 pm
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Quote: Kingdom Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:03 pm
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- omen, stand up, IMD, worlds on fire, trigger/shootdown, heatwave, dead ken beats, mescaline, big gundown, girls, run with the wolves, hotride .. just to name a few - are all based on samples 'n sounds produced by others. without a doubt, liam is a great producer. granted. but recently i feel he samples too much and i wish he'd just stick to himself. i don't know but it kinda bothers me when he uses too much of a sample 2 create a song. is it a sign of creativity or just lack of originality?
About the tracks that you mentioned let me say which ones lack of originality in my opinion:stand up ofcourse,dead ken beats,girls and a bit big gundown.
IMD is completely original,world's on fire too,also if it's got sample fro moutlander,but it's just an add,it's another completely different track,trigger is original and shoot down is more orinal than trigger.Heatwave too and epsecially hotride.Run is based on a does it offend you yeah sample,but it's different.
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Neuburger
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:31 am |
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GeneralPosts: 1430Location: HungaryJoined: Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:04 pm
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Dont forget Omen.
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foulmouth
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:05 am |
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GeneralPosts: 1028Location: AmsterdamJoined: Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:16 pm
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omen is a ripoff? i missed that.
anyway, it never bothered me that liam samples so much. i think his major talent is to blend it all into a 100% prodigy sounding track every time. originality shouldnt mean anything to you. it is all about whether you like what you hear.
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Neuburger
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:18 am |
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GeneralPosts: 1430Location: HungaryJoined: Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:04 pm
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foulmouth wrote: omen is a ripoff? i missed that. No, I was saying that Omen is an (almost) 100% original track.
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Stuie
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:21 am |
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GeneralPosts: 1718Location: Always outdrunk, Never outsoberJoined: Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:32 pm
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Does it seriously matter if Liam samples?
Every Prodigy album is riddled with samples all the way through.
Anyone can sample but its how you creativly use it is the key. Liam is one of the best in the business of sampling. He's hardly gonna stop now, as he said he's a pirate of music, stealing from here there and everywhere. And long may it continue!
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MoozeBlaster
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:40 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 2006Location: NorwayJoined: Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:50 pm
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FOTL was more sampled then IMD..
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crazyboy
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:23 pm |
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ModeratorPosts: 2211Location: Oslo, NorwayJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:48 pm
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Kingdom wrote: omen, stand up, IMD, worlds on fire, trigger/shootdown, heatwave, dead ken beats, mescaline, big gundown, girls, run with the wolves, hotride .. just to name a few - are all based on samples 'n sounds produced by others. without a doubt, liam is a great producer. granted. but recently i feel he samples too much and i wish he'd just stick to himself. i don't know but it kinda bothers me when he uses too much of a sample 2 create a song. is it a sign of creativity or just lack of originality?
what?!
that's the way he's always produced music. All prodigy tracks are just a mash-up of samples.
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freehandjunkie
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:45 pm |
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CaptainPosts: 657Location: united kingdomJoined: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:58 pm
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what a stupid fucking thread, liam is a beat thief, a pirate, he steals the great perts of tracks mixes it with his own genius and creates the amazing stuff we have had the pleasure of listening to for nearly 20 years..end of...lock this thread pointless
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