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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:47 pm
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Read this on teletext the other day, I knew things were in a state but this is shocking....

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End of physical singles?

By John Earls

The third-best selling single so far this week is a reissue of The Stone Roses' Elephant Stone. It's sold 406 copies.

OK, that's only if you took download sales away. But that means that, for all 7"s and CD singles sold on Monday, the No 3 would have sold pitifully.

Only JLS' Beat Again sold over 500 copies, shifting 3,809 copies. What has happened to the physical single?

After JLS, there's a huge drop in sales until you reach Green Day's 21 Guns, which sold 477 copies.

Some singles that are selling well on download have sold in such miserable quantities on 7" and CD, you wonder why the labels made them at all.

Florence And The Machine is at No 16. Her total 7"/CD sales this week? 64. Similarly, Daniel Merriweather's Red has sold 42 physical copies.

It's interesting to note that, for all the hype, sales of songs via mobile phones haven't really taken off.

They're doing about twice as well as physical singles, with the Top 10 averaging 500-1,000 sales via phones.

This is intriguing, because urban acts who are traditionally big sellers on mobiles are able to jump several places up the chart - by default, as the physical singles is dying out so much.

It was only three years ago that Gnarls Barkley's Crazy became the first single to reach No 1 solely on download sales.

For the past decade, there have been semi-regular features saying the 7" and 12" single has been making a comeback. But the statistics don't back this up.

As a boutique item in indie/dance shops vinyl has some credibility - but nowhere near as much mainstream impact as CD singles had until recently.

The big problem for CD singles is that shops simply don't sell them any more.

PS recently went to the biggest "record" shop in Britain, HMV on Oxford Street in London, to try to buy the current CD singles by Freemasons and Pet Shop Boys. HMV didn't sell them.

Are HMV not selling them because there is no demand any more... or because a £4 CD single is less profitable for shop space than a £40 PC game?

There have been plenty of debates before about whether it matters if an an album or single matters more to its owner if it's a physical or download.

Whatever side you're on, one thing is being lost out on here: the B-side.

From The Beatles to Oasis, bands once viewed them as release valves for their experimental songs. As people choose to only download one song, a good B-side is now as rare as a CD single.




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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:07 pm
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I find singles to be useless. If it's an "in-between albums" thing.. like BGAT was. that's cool because it's new and fresh.

But singles for songs that will appear on albums, or a single that has 4 or 5 remixes of the same song.. usually bad.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:22 am
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I like singles! Always been collecting them, but the last couple of years you can't find them anywhere here in Norway. There's like one record store company that has monopoly on everything now. All the small record stores are gone.... If I want singles these days, or the music I want, I have to order online from abroad or buy digital downloads.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:52 am
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This article probably goes some way to explaining why the CD singles The Prodigy are releasing only have 2 tracks and no B-side. Same for the 12". Looks like we're lucky to get them never mind a B-side! Physical formats are a tiny niche market these days.

I know us fans would prefer B-sides but it has to be said that all these remixes are getting The Prodigy a lot of plays on different radio shows. Singles are throw away these days. Most people just buy the title track and that's it. Hopefully the B-sides and unreleased tracks are being kept for an IMD bonus album. At least Albums have a shelf life.

I never look for CD singles in record shops any more. I buy them from HMV online in the first week they are released to make sure I get it.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:21 pm
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The 00's marks the death of the CD single...

The 10's will mark the death of the CD album, I'm almost certain...

Very sad times we live in :( ...



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:24 pm
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Things are changing.... :roll: :roll: :roll:


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:38 pm
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This is just the biggest shit, and it's called consumerism! It's just like with food: why cook, when you get a whole prepared meal? :evil:



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:48 am
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i think artists take note that there are alot of good fans that want a real single release, i'd prefer a real one over a digital one.

even if it doesn't sell well then start putting things in the fans want, simple as that, i'm sure if mescaline was featured in tmtth it would probably have more sales by now, theres even people on here not buying it because of the amount of shit thats been thrown on the track



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:13 am
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The Green Bastard wrote:
i think artists take note that there are alot of good fans that want a real single release, i'd prefer a real one over a digital one.


Me too, it's turning catch 22 though, shops don't sell them so they don't get bought and vice versa. Downloads will never replace physical for me.
I bet the physical releases for The Prodge piss all over most other releases at the time but I can see it's in the decline.



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:20 am
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After IMD I don't think we'll ever see another Prodigy physical single again...



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:35 pm
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I don´t care if singles are not available in a record-store as long as it is possible, to order them. I want a physical piece of music in my hands, but the most peoples nowadays are happy with zeroes and ones .... a very sad thing and I still hope, that the IMD era isn´t the last era of prodigy where you got music on physical objects.

It annoys me, too if there is i.e Itunes exclusive shit or something like that available and it is not possible to get a those tracks on cd or vinyl.

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And if I take a look to the future: I mean, imagine, humans are naturally hunters or collectors. What the human will collect in the future if he gets everything in digital nowadays ???

Movies, Books, Music, Pictures, Frames ...

... everything goes digital. The home interior of the future will be an empty room with nothing inside, only a chair, a table, a computer, a monitor, a freezer, a bed, a closet, a toilet and maybe some kitchenware if all shops are not closed forever, cos you can order everything you want to eat.

Should be very boring to see and live in a room without anything - it´s like in a jail ...

It´s a very very sad future imo :sad:

IMO it´s great to be modern, to take care of the nature and to go a step forward, but the humans have to keep a lot of old things forever, else they will lost them. It sounds conversative and old-school. but sometimes oldschool is far better than modern things and this has nothing to do with retro....



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