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jilted
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:00 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 1007Location: Atomic WastelandJoined: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:26 am
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yeah he samples cool but not too smart nowadays
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:09 pm |
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LieutenantPosts: 579Location: BulgariaJoined: Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:58 pm
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Yeah, Liam uses a lot of samples, but most of them very creatively.
On the other hand, two of the greatest tunes he has ever written (Breathe & Omen) hardly contain any samples.
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Stuie
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:59 pm |
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n/a wrote: Yeah, Liam uses a lot of samples, but most of them very creatively. On the other hand, two of the greatest tunes he has ever written (Breathe & Omen) hardly contain any samples.
I dunno about Breathe, the guitar riff was lifted from an old James Bond sound track and the swords sounds are from a Wu Tang track, Da Mystery of Chessboxin.
I'm sure Omen is littered with samples from somewhere that we haven't noticed yet.
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crazyboy
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:15 pm |
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ModeratorPosts: 2211Location: Oslo, NorwayJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:48 pm
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Stuie wrote: n/a wrote: Yeah, Liam uses a lot of samples, but most of them very creatively. On the other hand, two of the greatest tunes he has ever written (Breathe & Omen) hardly contain any samples. I'm sure Omen is littered with samples from somewhere that we haven't noticed yet.
...like this one
http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=1518
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:13 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 2107Location: Berlin, GermanyJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:53 pm
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Stuie wrote: n/a wrote: Yeah, Liam uses a lot of samples, but most of them very creatively. On the other hand, two of the greatest tunes he has ever written (Breathe & Omen) hardly contain any samples. I dunno about Breathe, the guitar riff was lifted from an old James Bond sound track and the swords sounds are from a Wu Tang track, Da Mystery of Chessboxin. I'm sure Omen is littered with samples from somewhere that we haven't noticed yet.
Isn´t the Breathe Main Riff just a re-cut of the James Bond Theme ???
Guitar beginning at 0:08 sec here [maybe Liam used another version]:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii1tc493bZM
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crazyboy
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:56 pm |
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ModeratorPosts: 2211Location: Oslo, NorwayJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:48 pm
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Flachcracker wrote: Isn´t the Breathe Main Riff just a re-cut of the James Bond Theme ??? Guitar beginning at 0:08 sec here [maybe Liam used another version]:
Some one needs to go through all the John Barry scores...the sample will pop up.
...might have been recreated like the Mindfields sample
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:15 pm |
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LieutenantPosts: 579Location: BulgariaJoined: Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:58 pm
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I know about those samples, but they are not really major samples like in other tracks. They are not even from tunes - Omen's sample is a sound from some site, and the sword sample is originally from a movie.
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crazyboy
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:33 pm |
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ModeratorPosts: 2211Location: Oslo, NorwayJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:48 pm
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n/a wrote: I know about those samples, but they are not really major samples like in other tracks. They are not even from tunes - Omen's sample is a sound from some site, and the sword sample is originally from a movie.
glockespiel in Omen is probably sampled...and the main synth riff melody is probably stolen from somewhere.
Breathe is a pure John Barry rip off :D
We just need to spot the samples
What's more likely:
- Liam Howlett has built all tracks from samples, except Breathe and Omen
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- Liam Howlet has built all tracks from samples. Major samples in Breathe and Omen just hasn't been spotted yet
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Stuie
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:45 pm |
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:30 pm |
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Well, if no major samples have been spotted in Breathe for 13 years or so, why do you think that would change It's not like only a few people have heard the track
So, you have time until 2022 to find the major Omen samples
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:12 pm |
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no way the main riff in omen is a sample..
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crazyboy
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:24 pm |
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n/a wrote: Well, if no major samples have been spotted in Breathe for 13 years or so, why do you think that would change It's not like only a few people have heard the track So, you have time until 2022 to find the major Omen samples
sample at the end of EITP hasn't been spotted either...that's almost 20 years old.
Kool and The Gang sample in SMBU was just spotted, that's 12 years.
How long did it take before the Bernad Purdie sample in 3 kilos was spotted? 10 years? ..and the John Barry rip off in Mindfields?
We have forever to spot samples in Omen....so what exactly is your point?
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crazyboy
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:27 pm |
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ModeratorPosts: 2211Location: Oslo, NorwayJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:48 pm
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MoozeBlaster wrote: no way the main riff in omen is a sample..
Agree.
But that doesn't mean it wasn't stolen and recreated
Mindfields melodie wasn't sampled either...neither was Jericho...but no credit given to the original producers of the melodies.
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Harbinger
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:58 am |
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n/a wrote: Well, if no major samples have been spotted in Breathe for 13 years or so, why do you think that would change It's not like only a few people have heard the track So, you have time until 2022 to find the major Omen samples
It's about people accidently coming across the samples now, take that 'Equal Rights' sample, only just been spotted nearly twenty years later.
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MoozeBlaster
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:53 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 2006Location: NorwayJoined: Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:50 pm
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if it take that long to spot a sample, then its good use of samples anyway.
Its not like the tunes liam make, sounds like the original songs he sampled.
as long as it sounds like a original prodigy-tune, who moan about it?
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