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Do you belive in ghosts?


yes
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[ 11 ] 33%
 
no
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:46 pm
User avatarGeneralGeneralPosts: 2006Location: NorwayJoined: Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:50 pm
tell me why..



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:16 am
no, waste of time, its like believing in any god.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:55 am
User avatarThe Orange AuthorityThe Orange AuthorityPosts: 4748Location: NetherlandsJoined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:39 pm
'cause it's make-believe. If you believe in ghosts, you start to see ghosts in everything. If you don't believe, well... it's just the wind fucking with your door. :lol:

All in all I think all 'spooky language (George Carlin quote)' is just bullshit, and we don't need it. It makes us weak and vulnerable, and eager to get to the dead loved ones and shit. Which, in turn, suggests we want to go to heaven to see them again. Which, in turn, requires you to believe in some form of religion. It's in our nature to want to the things that are not within our grasp (anymore), which is why we make up shit, to compensate, to satisfy our griefs.

Just bullshit. When are we gonna get along without all this mumbo jumbo? It pisses me off. :lol: All these rules... meh. Something tells me the people blieve in ghosts should also believe in hell and heaven, demons and angels, goblins and zombies. Ressurection after the dead (contradicts going to heaven?), stigmata, floating in thin air, all the Jesus stroytelling, all the Krishna-storytelling, all the Mohammed-storytelling, and...

Snow-White. That might've been true.

What about Lord of the Rings? Elves and faeries, seems really nice. We'll take that as a 'maybe'.


Pffff..... Bullshit. Ghosts. Wait 'till the end of the next month. :lol:



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:58 pm
User avatarGeneralGeneralPosts: 3847Location: USAJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:56 pm
i dunno.
I've never really experienced anything myself.
But have heard stories from my family.

My mom, brother, and a few other family members all experienced something at the same time. The day we were moving out of our house from Brooklyn to Long Island, they were getting ready to leave and met in my grandma's kitchen downstairs. This was the kitchen where my grandfather was found dead at the table. The kitchen has those tile drop ceilings that when a gust of wind comes in, a few would rise a bit and drop. All windows and doors were locked as they were obviously leaving the place for the final time. I had already left with my dad, 2 sisters, and grandma. So the rest of em all met in the kitchen, and right when they were about to go, every single tile rose high in the ceiling and dropped. Trust me, I remember a good gust would lift a few here and there, but this was ALL of them they said. Plus the house burned that year after we left on my grandpa's favorite holiday Thanksgiving. It could all be a natural occurrence or who knows. I wasn't there, but it freaked all of them out a bit.

my Aunt had a couple of weird things happen.

She's works in real estate and shows houses. On one occasion, while showing a place to a couple, the cabinet doors in the kitchen all began opening wide and slamming shut. Scared the shit outta the couple.

Another time, while babysitting alone at her neighbor's house, she was sitting watching TV taking care of the baby. She caught something out of her eye that made her look down the hall that had an entrance way to the kitchen at the end. Staring back at her, peaking out from around the corner of the entrance, was a lady looking at her. She said she looked old and kinda like an Indian. She grabbed the kid and got the fuck out and would not watch the kid there anymore. When she told me, she looked genuinely freaked out talking about it.

i hate it when people automatically lump ghosts in with the belief of an afterlife though. Do I believe in heaven or hell? No. Can some be explained away as natural things? Sure. But maybe there's more to it.

I don't wanna sound all hippy and spiritual, cuz I'm not any of those things.

My theory, our bodies are said to be made of energy that even scientists don't really seem to understand. Sure we can explain the whole birth process from conception to being born, but no one can explain what causes that lifeforce to begin. And NO, I'm not going to say it was God. Far from that. Cuz honestly I don't understand it and don't have the nerve to say I do especially when it comes to the religion aspect.

But it seems we have some sorta energy that sparks and you are here... in existence suddenly. Maybe that energy can have some sorta connection to a place. Maybe there's some scientific explanation like multiple dimensions or something we yet don't understand. Maybe there is more to us, not that whole sappy religion spirit crap, but more to due with particles and energy that we do not see or even grasp yet.

It's funny, MGMT's "Fourth Dimensional Transition" lyric comes to mind...
"If what they say is true. You are a shadow in the fourth dimension."

And I don't even know if I should go into my girlfriend's father telling me his experience with a ghost. You guys probably wouldn't believe it. I mean it like something out of a movie. He looked uncomfortable when he first told me cuz he probably thought I'd call him crazy and a liar.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:23 am
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I'm gonna say yes because I would like to meet the ghost whisperer.



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:20 am
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i'm one of them



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:19 pm
User avatarLieutenantLieutenantPosts: 511Location: New York CityJoined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:43 pm
never did, until one night alone in my room

after my experience occured, I had a sudden urge to drink milk, and I never drink milk


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:04 pm
User avatarThe Orange AuthorityThe Orange AuthorityPosts: 4748Location: NetherlandsJoined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:39 pm
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:22 pm
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lol to the pic :lol:

i dont believe in ghosts as real existing living (more or less :lol: ) beeings. however i believe that humans have VERY vivid imaginations. everything you wanna see exists :!:
so if one sais ghosts exist, it has to be true, right?



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:05 pm
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i grew up in a "ghost house"..

still dont know what to belive. :?



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:50 pm
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When my girlfriend's father Rich was a teenager, him, his parents, and two sisters moved to a house in the woods of upstate New York.

The house was being sold by the daughters of a husband and wife who passed away. Half the house had been rebuilt due to the furnace in the basement exploding, leaving the wife with severe burns and who would later pass away from her injuries. The daughters had already moved away before the blast. The husband remained in the house and, according to people in the local town, never left the house. Until one day, he came into town out of nowhere and was acting extremely friendly and nice to the town folk. Which was apparently out of character of him according to the locals. He would return home that day and be discovered the next morning dead.

So the daughters took the house and sold it... to my girlfriend's father's family.

He said the two daughters were a bit strange and would not stay in the actual house, but chose to stay in the guest shack on the property instead. Before they left, they offered Rich their bird that was a family pet. He had his own cage with one of those little perches tied by rope. His family moved in, giving the bird a spot in the kitchen, and the two daughters got on a plane and headed back home.

A week later, Rich would discover the bird dead in their kitchen... it's neck wrapped tightly by the rope that attached the perch to its cage. Also, they would be woken up occasionally in the middle of the night from what sounded like a female screaming from inside the house.

Then, Rich's own father began to act a bit strange and irritable. Withdrawing from the usual family sit down dinners, he would instead go down into the basement to be alone. Rich caught him on many occasions having conversations... alone... with furnace in the basement.

That's when the shadow figure began to appear to him.

Rich had two run ins with this shadow person. Once in his bedroom at night, where it appeared in the corner of his room. His best description of what he saw was that he could make out the shape of a person, but it was a void of darkness within that shape with no distinct features. It was darker then the shadows around it. It approached his bed and Rich screamed at the top his lungs for it to go away. As soon as he said that, it was vanished before his eyes. The second time, he would encounter it in his hallway on another night. This time with the lights on in the house. Still, he could make out a human form, but it was a void of blackness.

One morning, his mom and two sisters were planning to go into town for groceries and typical household items. Rich was staying home to read his motorcycle magazines. His father approached him and told him that he should go with his mom and sisters to the store. Rich didn't want to go. He would rather stay home and obsess over his magazines. His father insisted again and Rich refused.

His mom ended up losing control of the car and crashed into a department store with his two sisters inside the car. The brake lines to the car had been cut.

Rich's father continued his downward spiral and became drunk and abusive. Going down to be alone in the basement constantly. So Rich, his mom, and two sisters left the father and moved out.

His two sisters would later go crazy after moving away. Literally, the both of them became deeply disturbed later in life. The father is still alive and lives in the same house upstate. Rich hasn't spoken to him since.

And yeah, there's my long story... well, Rich's story.

I would like to go stay in that house for a night or two when it is no longer occupied.



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:02 pm
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Come one Ghosts do exist have none of you seen ghost and Most Haunted?!

Lmfao.. Im joking..

I dont actually know what to believe. I know theres a lot of paranormal and weird shit that happen to people, you know with encounters and so on. Id like to think they are bonkers but my mum had a weird encounter so did my Grandad whom sadly passed away. Was either a UFO or Ghost of something. Mum said it was like a figure of some kind when she was walking though a park early in the morning to get to the stables. Gives me the goosebumps thinking about it tbh. But she went and got my Grandad and he saw it too apparently.

Personally I've had no encounters of the ghostly kind. So realistically I would not believe in such daft ideas. But there are many stories out there that don't make sense...
So I'm open to such abnormalities, weather they exist or not I wanna keep a open mind about it :)



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:09 pm
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I don't believe in ghosts because, quite simply, there is no evidence whatsoever that they exist, regardless of peoples' eye witness testimonies.

Why do people never say that they see animal ghosts from further back in the evolution line? People only report of seeing human ghosts, (or relatively rarely, other animals that are around today). You may argue only humans see human ghosts, but where's the cut off point in our evolution line from where we see human ghosts as opposed to what came before? A counterargument to this may be that the ghosts, too, have evolved. However, natural selection occurs so that animals survive better in the world, and ghosts would not need these same enhancements as we have acquired, to survive as ghosts, as far as I'm concerned.

Fucking hell, this business essay I'm doing at the moment is making me think too much :lol:



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:38 am
User avatarThe Orange AuthorityThe Orange AuthorityPosts: 4748Location: NetherlandsJoined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:39 pm
Just watch this episode, and some will be clear.

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=QIZAC1ZM



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:29 pm
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NEOREV:

Rich's father cut the brakes of the car. Also he killed the bird. :-D


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