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the spitfire
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:54 pm |
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Guest01 wrote: Alien 3 - theatrical version, because Directors cut have some significant differences in the story which are not official and made much worse
Like I told in my previous post The Assembly Cut (aka "The Director's Cut") of Alien 3 is as close as possible reconstruction of the original untampered David Fincher cut and because of it far better than the Theatrical Cut which was notoriously bastardized by the studio. You may of course feel otherwise but the general consensus is that The Assembly Cut is better.
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:56 pm |
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the spitfire wrote: Guest01 wrote: Alien 3 - theatrical version, because Directors cut have some significant differences in the story which are not official and made much worse Like I told in my previous post The Assembly Cut (aka "The Director's Cut") of Alien 3 is as close as possible reconstruction of the original untampered David Fincher cut and because of it far better than the Theatrical Cut which was notoriously bastardized by the studio. You may of course feel otherwise but the general consensus is that The Assembly Cut is better.
If somebody never watch film, then he need to watch original version, as I said, because it have official story.
Some things are changed with reason, and reason is because they sucks in Finchers cut. (Like this "Ox idea", less disturbing ending, to much unnecessarily talking which choking whole movie, some Rippley's outbursts of behavior, etc). No, it's not better version.
And btw, if you ask me, Alien 3 is better movie than Cameron's "Ramboaliens".
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:56 pm |
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Guest01 wrote: If somebody never watch film, then he need to watch original version, as I said, because it have official story.
Some things are changed with reason, and reason is because they sucks in Finchers cut. (Like this "Ox idea", less disturbing ending, to much unnecessarily talking which choking whole movie, some Rippley's outbursts of behavior, etc). No, it's not better version.
And btw, if you ask me, Alien 3 is better movie than Cameron's "Ramboaliens".
Well, I disagree with that. In fact I personally suggest avoiding the Theatrical Cut completely. The Assembly Cut is closer to Fincher's original Director's Cut.
The basic setting and the story is the same in both the cuts. Only in the Theatrical Cut it all makes less sense because of the senseless cuts made by the studio. What the studio tried to do with their bastardized cut was to turn Alien 3 into something more like Aliens i.e. more like an action movie. Fincher's aim was to make a darker more disturbing movie, something more in the vain of the first Alien rather than Aliens.
The ox/dog thing is not really that significant in my opinion. It doesn't change the basic story. It's just an ox instead of a dog basically.
But cut preferences aside I do fully agree on with you on Alien 3 being better than Aliens.
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:58 pm |
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Just bought Alien Quadrilogy, all the director's cuts and extra-material. Very nice package just before the release of Prometheus, I must say Collector's editions
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:51 am |
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raggedflag wrote: Just bought Alien Quadrilogy, all the director's cuts and extra-material. Very nice package just before the release of Prometheus, I must say Collector's editions
I've got smth better - Alien Anthology - six Blu-ray discs!
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:35 pm |
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'Prometheus' Michael Fassbender: 'Ridley Scott Is Great to Work With'
20 April 2012
Michael Fassbender has said that Prometheus director Ridley Scott was "a joy" to work with.
The actor, who plays android David in Prometheus, admitted that he was very nervous before filming the sci-fi epic, but Scott quickly put him at ease.
"It was a lot of fun. I was pretty nervous, on the first day; I didn't know what to expect. Then it just became like play really," Fassbender revealed, reports Flicks and Bits. "Even though we were both very serious about the work, it was a joy."
Fassbender went on to describe Scott's much-discussed collaborative filmmaking style.
"No idea was stupid until we tried it and put it on the floor. If it worked it worked, if it didn't it didn't," he explained. "What's really impressive about Ridley Scott and watching him work, you've got 350 people on set, and each department has got to come and bring their top game to set."
The actor continued: "Seeing someone have involvement and instilling passion in each of those departments is pretty amazing to witness, and to have the precision in each department, and to have the imagination, enthusiasm, energy... that's what sort of makes him the master, you know?
"You have to be a ringmaster, especially with something of this size, this magnitude."
Fassbender recently starred in a new Prometheus viral video, which featured his android character David ominously describing his many workforce skills.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news ... -with.html
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:45 pm |
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:32 pm |
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the spitfire wrote: It's Alive! – David8 Is on Twitter
He looks like a robot/android. Man, this guy is a genious... his expressions! He makes me dive deep in the uncanny valley.
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:15 pm |
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A real good casting choice.
Although I really wondered all this time what role James Franco was considered for...
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:02 am |
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:48 pm |
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Potentially mild spoilers ahead, as Fox reveal a few tantalising details about the monsters, ships and sets in the forthcoming Prometheus…
Quote: At a time when most films are becoming increasingly dominated by computer graphics, the old practice of building big, physical sets appeared to be dying out. In the case of Prometheus, Ridley Scott’s taken a traditional approach to shooting the film, constructing huge sets which can be augmented with a smattering of CG later, as opposed to shooting his actors in front of a flat green screen.
Keen to highlight this fact, 20th Century Fox has recently spoken a little more openly about the process of making the film, and mentioned aspects of its production which, until recently, weren’t officially confirmed. In an intriguing piece over on Screenslam (of which we learned thanks to Prometheus Movie News), production designer Arthur Max talks about the huge sets constructed for Prometheus, which required Pinewood Studios’ 007 Stage to be expanded by a third.
Most intriguingly, the discussion about the film’s progress threw up some tantalising facts about its story. The article mentions a structure on the alien planet called a Pyramid, which is the huge grey thing we’ve seen in Prometheus’ trailer – you know, the one with the big space face in it. Within the Pyramid, there’s something called the Juggernaut, described in the piece as “a ship similar to the crashed crescent shaped ship seen in Alien”. Again, we saw one of these Space Jockey ships flying around in the trailer, but this is the first time we’ve heard it referred to as a Juggernaut, and it’s interesting to note that it’s ‘similar’, rather than the same as the one in Alien.
Meanwhile, someone responsible for Prometheus’ creature and make-up effects, Conor O’Sullivan, spoke enigmatically about the film’s barely-glimpsed monsters. “Each stage of a creature’s life cycle has a distinctive purpose. For our xenobiology, we brought in new elements that are not necessarily backward from those in Alien, but are of a similar DNA […] Ridley’s references are derived from nature – plants, vegetables, sea creatures and other animals.”
All of this would suggest something quite unlike the now traditional facehuggers and chestbursters of the current Alien franchise, which leaves us in the happy situation where, although it seems as though the various trailers and images released for Prometheus so far have revealed a lot, there’s still much that we haven’t yet seen - a kind of intellectual carrot, like the one in The Thing From Another World, perhaps? The mind boggles.
We’ve seen from at least one of the Prometheus promos that something unpleasant happens to a cast member, who’s briefly seen strapped into a cryogenic pod with some sort of writhing abomination suspended just above their head. Of that scene, Rapace says, “What goes on there is simply the worst thing you can (or probably cannot) imagine”.
To finish, here’s one final morsel of intrigue: we know (again, from the trailers) that a segment of the film takes place in front of a waterfall – presumably, this is Earth, but that’s not yet a certainty. What the article reveals is that Ridley Scott shot two sequences at the same waterfall location in Iceland – a prologue and a climactic sequence. How does this location serve as both an opening and a closing to Scott’s interplanetary saga?
Does this mean the apparently incidental little bit of footage in the trailer, where a humanoid figure and a disc-shaped craft are seen in front of this waterfall, have far more of a bearing on the story than it first appears? The plot thickens…
taken from http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1337682/prometheus_news_roundup_practical_sets_monsters_ships_and_locations.html
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:07 pm |
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the spitfire wrote:
Do not miss this one!
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:49 am |
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:21 am |
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Tanner_47 wrote: Prometheus Will Be Rated "R"!26 April 2012 Prometheus will be rated R according to Fox CEO, Tom Rothman in a recent MTV interview. This is an incredible sign of relief to most fan boys - as many were getting discouraged that the film may hold a PG-13 rating. "Not one frame of Prometheus will be cut.""If that means it’s an R rating, so be it."- Tom Rothman, Fox CEO http://www.prometheus-movie.com/news/176
Thanks! I sure hope it will be rated R. If it ends up PG-13 then this was obviously nothing but PR talk.
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:39 pm |
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Now, thats what I want to hear!
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