Some people probably left because they didnt want to deal with all the mud.

this is really what bugs me about that caspa song.

too bad theres nothing else to expect from them, this is it, its gonna be different versions of this shit, and i think a lot of itht is the fault of liam. but lets just hope this album exceeds expectations, and they get this fucking war theme dead and buried by the end of it.. i mean, its been going since early 2000s..

It is not about words, it's about the attitude.
It doesn't feel for me like it comes from Keith's heart anymore. He just sings this way, cos he probably thinks this is considered as cooler. Mr looped sampler. But it is not cooler, it is fake. He doesn't represent any deeper emotions now.

Nah, i'm not waiting for anything anymore.
As you know, there's a gig in Warsaw tomorrow, and i was about to go there. But i said to myself: ok, i'll wait till Download and then check out those new tunes getting played.
Lol but sorry, there's no tunes, there's just one tune, and it's described as 'short stompy tune with mostly Keith vocals" (ok, i didn't hear it so far). But it doesn't feel promising at all. One tune, and excluding it, it's same setlist since years? Ok then, I'll wait for more. At home.

It's very disappointing to see the same setlist for years with a couple of sub standard (for The Prodigy) new tracks thrown in. They are still a great band but they need to disappear until they have got something new to bring.
I've no desire to go see them live any more and that's the first time I have ever felt like that.

And the unplugged synth on stage, was that true?

Sorry guys but i am bored with people moaning about the setlist. We should consider about the new fans and people who see them for the first time. Believe me or not, gigs ain't for us the hardcore fans ONLY. When you see a crowd about 50.000 people, you should know that there are at least 30000 people watching prodigy live for the first time.
I am asking you... If you find yourself in a big band's gig for the first time (e.g red hot chili pepper's gig) are you sure you prefer hearing b-sides and no knowing tracks than the big hits of them?? ). Imo I am ok with the current setlist except one or two tracks but it's ok. We should be happy for the oppurtinity that is giving to us being able to watch our favourite band even if they are almost at 50 years old
Btw watching the "wof" video from last night, makes me to can't wait watch them again in about 20 days from now, here in Athens, @rockwave festival. They still got it!!!

Maybe the most clever comment from the past 2 3 days in this forum Totally agree with you man

Thats a very good post Demoyl.

ME AS A HARDCORE FAN:

'oh man we were promised these nu tracks for UK and all we got is one new one and 2 other ones where one seems incomplete and the other is pre imd,..could do with swapping some of their common ones for other back catalogue tunes'

DOWNLOAD FESTIVAL GOE'RS
- YKNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALL OR MOST OF THE ALBUMS KNOW A LOT ABOUT THEIR BACK CATALOGUE BUT DON'T GO ON MESSAGE BOARDS TO SEE EVERY SET LIST THEY DO! (HOW THE PRODIGY SEE THEIR CROWD) - REALITY:

'Wow we got tracks off all the albums - at least most of them are totally new and re-vamped. totally different to the albums!'

(think thunder,firestarter etc)

'And 2 of em just went in another direction and blew the place apart!'

(thik poison outro + spitfast)

'And 3 of them...i didnt even recognise but they rocked!. i dunno if their bringing a new album out - thats fantastic - woo hoo!'

Are we giving them needless flack?we wouldnt say it to their faces.

no reasonable at all. thats what festivals are for, the last five or six shows were their own shows and they still play the same shit setlist. Sure theres more bandwagons at festivals and a few at their shows, but thats not a excuse to play the same shit all over the place, either festival or not. its a shame, predictable and boring.

Just got back from Download this morning... I took loads of photos and videos of the Prodigy set. I tried to video everything that was new or I didnt recognize (despite my low post count, Ive been reading these boards for years and have a massive collection and knoweldge of the band!)

I got full videos of Dogbite etc.. just converting them now to AVI's as they were all taken with my camera as quicktime shit.

Even stood there right in the middle near the front-ish, and as excited as I was, I couldnt make out almost any lyrics on the new tracks and so they all dissapointed somewhat. They just sounded like a load of bass and noise with screaming on top now and then... Im sure though they will be good on the album once we all hear them clear.

From memory this morning, Spitlick was great - A faster version of Spitfire.... Im sure I got a video of that.

** I agree with some of the comments that the sound was lower than I would have liked

** Despite me knowing the various samples, lyrics & effects, other poeple who dont know the tracks note for note wouldnt have heard them at all as it was all a bit muffled. There were tons of stuff you just couldnt hear properly. This also had a lot to do with the wind making the long lines of suspended speakers blow and swing left to right while twisting slightly... It was like pointing a speaker at yourself and turning it away then back again.

** I dont mind the set list at all but the bands quotes and lyrics are getting very predictable - Maxim did his usual lines which many of you will recognize:

"You see this shit here.. they dont come harder than this!"
"Thankyou... and thats from the heart"
"(during SMBU) Everybody get the fuck down"
"All my warriors at the front..."
"This shit belongs to the pople.."
and much more...

Keith did all his usual additional lyrics during Firestarter and others... I even was able to quote these to my partner almost word for word and when Maxim would say them and he did. Her response was "how did you know he was going to say that..??!!!" All this seems to make it like watching a film over and over again rather than a live gig where they go with the flow... Anyone know what I mean here..?

Anyway, I will get them up to Youtube asap... no idea at all what the sound quality is like but from previous gigs, they are utter crap on laptops, but can be very very good through surround system with bass.

P.S. It was particularyly hard to keep my camera still on full zoom, I tried my best folks!

so why was it they changed setlist 2 or 3 times a year during 95-96? were ppl unhappy about it? no, they got massive crowd on every gig when they played so b-sides and no-knowing tracks like gabba, brown, vogue, rock n roll, rhythm of life, molotov bitch, g-force, benny blanco; - beside the well known tracks of breathe, voodoo, firestarter, smbu, poison and the like.
sry ur comment is just not true.
if u read my earlier comment I said im not moaning anymore about the setlist, cause i dont care, i wait and see whats gonna happen. but i just wanted to point u out that they HAD crowd when they played always new and new stuffs and not the same through years.

I wouldn't said it better. It's not happy to admit, but i totally agree.
I understand very well the part you wrote about repeatable lyrics and watching live gig like watching a movie. As a person who saw them few times live, i have the same impressions. And to made things clear - i'm not a hater at all.

On the other hand, thank you in advance for the YT footage.

No offence but no dude I didn't read your earlier comment...and I DIDN'T say anywhere that there would be unhappy ppl if they were changing the setlist everytime. Btw your comment is wrong, cause the change of the setlist at 95 to 96 was because of the new album and the new tracks on it, and you all have to remember a thing. There wasn't youtube and internet download etc, so there wasn't any problem for the band to present a new tune live. Come on ppl what's your problem, we allready got 4-5 new tracks more in dowload fest than last year's setlist (spitfast included). Sorry guys it's my opinion but I DON'T want a setlist with no tracks on it like: SMBU, firestarter, breathe, omen, poison, voodoo, wof, imd, Out of space... (I also miss No good ).

Btw I also don't like Maxim same phrases in every gig ("all my people", "all my warrio"r etc... ) but ok what can we do? If you don't like being in a prodigy gig anymore just DON'T go and leave the rest of us entering here to just watch if there is a new video in that thread with the title "Jetfire"

The've totally become the spinal tap of dance music.
This tour seems totally useless tbh. Liam would better sit at home or hire
a house somewhere in the middle of nowhere and fucking experiment
again.

This looking dangerous thing is getting quite ridiculous since they are all
good in their fourties now.

It seems 2002 all over again.

Are you fucking kidding me? You think "new fans" want to hear the weak firestarter shit it turned out to be now? Also, I'm pretty sure there are more "big hits" to play live than the same shitlist for the last 4 years. You can watch all the hits on yt on multiple pro shot gigs, and the funny thing is,its always the same old songs....

Man, I know exactly what you mean, year ago at Woodstock gig it was the same for me. Now I almost regret they recorded Milton Keynes gig, Watching it like ten times before going to the festival (which was held 2-3 months after World's on Fire was released) made me feel ultra weird because the stuff Maxim said was exactly the same as on DVD. I even think that's one of the reasons (although no one seems to mention it) people are so disappointed with current gigs - what would be the problem if I saw them only once a year? I'd be happy enough to see them, and I would't care that they do what they did last year. But when I know their DVD off by heart, going to a gig is like watching a movie. That's why I didn't even touch the DVD since a year. Tomorrow going to the Warsaw gig, I'm happy enough for Spitfire comeback, two new tracks (I don't think they will play more than AWOL & Dogbite... Jetfighter would be a nice surprise but Polish gig isn't a Download gig) and I got my expectations set low, so I won't come back disappointed. A little bit of positive attitude is all we need!

If I may ask you for something - I beg you (or anyone else) to upload Jetfighter before tomorrow - I want to see it before I (maaybe) see it live!