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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:48 am
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The Israeli media has been reporting lately that The Prodigy will be in Israel in November as part of an electronic music festival. There aren't many other details yet about the festival itself, but as for The Prodigy one of the articles claims only Keith and Maxim will be coming with some DJs, and without Liam!

Obviously I'll go to the gig but without Liam? Really?!

Back in 2010 there were reports about The Prodigy coming to Israel but they eventually didn't. Why is it always so convoluted when it comes to their shows in Israel?

Their last time here was back in 1997, by the way. They haven't been getting air time here and are generally considered a retro act, which is unfortunate.

Time to spark things up again by doing a proper gig in Israel.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 1:02 pm
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I dont see what they would do there. sing breathe without music? haha. guest vocaling in other bands? hahaha. no, its not possible at all. if they go there without liam that means they will just visit the festival, not perform there in any form.
anyway, dont trust newspaper or internet articles. when they show a pic of liam saying "keith flint, frontman of the prodigy" :lol:



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:23 pm
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i don't see why not. all liam does is play the mp3s of the tracks and put a little synth over the top.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:58 pm
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©@rm4g3dd0n wrote:
I dont see what they would do there. sing breathe without music? haha. guest vocaling in other bands? hahaha. no, its not possible at all. if they go there without liam that means they will just visit the festival, not perform there in any form.
anyway, dont trust newspaper or internet articles. when they show a pic of liam saying "keith flint, frontman of the prodigy" :lol:

You're right... the Israeli media also said that they will come in 2010, but they didn't. Imagine my disappointment. At least now I have tickets to WDF Belgrade :)

KurtHectic wrote:
i don't see why not. all liam does is play the mp3s of the tracks and put a little synth over the top.

I remember someone saying that in the forums in the past and then I believe Liam was upset and responded to that in an interview. Unfortunately I can't find that reference, but in any case I don't see it the way you do. Can't picture Prodigy playing "live" without Liam


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:31 pm
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Prodigy can easily play gig with any DJ as Liam's replacement... but, is it Prodigy then.... :roll:



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:21 pm
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KurtHectic wrote:
i don't see why not. all liam does is play the mp3s of the tracks and put a little synth over the top.


yeah okay, all i can ever hear is some extra effects in the tracks. i think the guitarist and drummer do a lot more "live" than liam, but even like this it is UNBELIAVABLY fucked to think that liam would play the lossy distorted disgusting mp3s of the tracks.

edit: since written talking can be misunderstood too easily, i wish to add that NO OFFENCE was meant to you by my comment.



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:39 pm
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i cant see any situation where maxim and keef would do a "prodigy" gig with out liam...article is not correct or something...absolutely ridiculous

lotta people talking shit about liam...guess since any dj can do what he does then you wont be going to see them live anymore



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:38 pm
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©@rm4g3dd0n wrote:
KurtHectic wrote:
i don't see why not. all liam does is play the mp3s of the tracks and put a little synth over the top.


yeah okay, all i can ever hear is some extra effects in the tracks. i think the guitarist and drummer do a lot more "live" than liam, but even like this it is UNBELIAVABLY fucked to think that liam would play the lossy distorted disgusting mp3s of the tracks.

edit: since written talking can be misunderstood too easily, i wish to add that NO OFFENCE was meant to you by my comment.


I was adding a little humour by saying "MP3's" but I'm glad you get my point.

In all seriousness I can't see a live gig without Liam ever happening. Ever. Not as if the live show requires him to be there for it to be a show, but because Liam IS the prodigy behind the music, and people pay to see The Prodigy when they come along for a show.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:17 am
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its like seeing a magic show, its all about the show and not about how the trick works behind the scenes.

sometimes liam triggers things live, sometimes he doesnt, it depends on the era, depends if he can be fucked doing so.

it takes a lot of preperation to do this kind of music live and keep a high standard, you can really fuck things up, and crash software easily, and then you look like a fucking idiot.

he definitely has done it previously but i think 90% of the time its just a dat/multitrack/ableton, but who gives a shit, im not gonna get up on stage and stand next to him to make sure hes doing his job properly, when i know most of his shit is sampled anyway.

liam is a dj on microscopic level, jacking other peoples tracks, but in small samples, he should just keep doing what hes doing, because its all he can do, and it works for the masses, our opinions dont mean shit!

as for them going there without liam, i highly doubt liam would ever allow that, as far as i know liam hasnt died recently? maybe he can be a hologram
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:00 pm
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John Burton - Prodigy FOH Engineer wrote:
"Liam’s got this nasty habit of changing things all the time. Since he started using Ableton, he’s got the ability to adapt songs on the fly, so there’s lots of non-structured parts in the set where I don’t know what’s going to happen until it’s happened. Which is good — he’s going from strength to strength.”


http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct10/a ... rodigy.htm



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:56 pm
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he plays live shit all the time. It's just not that obvious (they aren't mixed in very loudly). But at a gig you constantly hear odd effects, live improvised bits. Sometimes out of tune :D But it's better than when he used to play some dance kickdrums over breathe in 1996...anyway, it's not just pressing play :)

I think he once had an angry blogpost about this haha.

But I never really heard him change the structure of the track so much...new to me


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:21 pm
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I think there is also problem with lights on the stage. If Liam change some track too much without preparation, lights will not be synchronized with the music. From beginning to around 1995-97 lights aren't specific to track so Liam had free hands for jamming



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:08 pm
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lukuc wrote:
I think there is also problem with lights on the stage. If Liam change some track too much without preparation, lights will not be synchronized with the music. From beginning to around 1995-97 lights aren't specific to track so Liam had free hands for jamming


in a way i prefer live lighting for this reason, even if its just slightly different, i think its worth it, midi clock out of ableton

i dont know enough about it to say for sure, but i think its possible still


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:12 pm
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Jr wrote:
But it's better than when he used to play some dance kickdrums over breathe in 1996...anyway, it's not just pressing play :)


well man, you should watch poison from phoenix 96 then. at some point it is clearly showed that liam plays three different rhythms at the same time, including a synth play and a kick-drum too. that's what I'm missing nowadays.



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:18 pm
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©@rm4g3dd0n wrote:
Jr wrote:
But it's better than when he used to play some dance kickdrums over breathe in 1996...anyway, it's not just pressing play :)


well man, you should watch poison from phoenix 96 then. at some point it is clearly showed that liam plays three different rhythms at the same time, including a synth play and a kick-drum too. that's what I'm missing nowadays.


Oh yeah I think I remember...he played the synth line from his method man remix didn't he?

In amsterdam 2004 he did the same, going into release yo self/delf fill with maxim. Awesome :)

Nowadays his synth work is a bit softer in the mix, and not so obvious most of the times. But...I don't mind really..as long as I can actually hear the drummer and guitarist (in the 2002-2004-2005 period i could hardly hear them!) :)


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