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< PRODIGY LIVE ~ ‘Warrior’s Dance Festival’ Belgrade 15.09.12 |
jiltedgenerator
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:53 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 1265Joined: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:00 pm
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Pause for a thought, how do the band feel doing repetitive setlists, they still put on a bangin show everytime.
Also the hardcore fanbase doesn't make up the majority of the crowd @ gigs, so for the majority the setlist would be fine. It's those of us that attend several gigs or wait around for the next gig recording that seem to be bothered by the set.
I'd still go tomorrow if a uk gig was announced with the same setlist.
Spare a thought for those fans who rarely get to see them.
for selfish reasons I'd love 90 mins of complete shuffled tracks from all the Prodigy's albums, goosebumps at the start of each random track. I last got that at Milton Keynes with Weather Expeience and Everybody In The Place.
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prodigalOne
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:11 pm |
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LieutenantPosts: 511Location: New York CityJoined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:43 pm
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I think yall are overthinking this.......three/four pages of 15 people commenting about repetitive setlists vs thousands upon thousands of people having a good time. we're talking about 40 yr old dudes now, with families and lives that are now consuming more and more of their time. We all know they're past their hayday, but even IN their hayday, the same setlist was going around then too, at Reading and Brixton.....just that today we can see 30 minutes of a live show, in full HD, mere days after it happens. we have, what, 12 recordings total in 97?
unplug yourselves, respect the band, and when the time comes, you'll be having a good time as well at their live show. It's all good, no need for us to pay attention to many of the finer details
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NEOREV
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:11 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 3847Location: USAJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:56 pm
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of course man, i would go to a show too because i love this band
and comments go more in line with their own touring shows and WDF would be the only festival that i would expect to be more geared toward hardcore fans. i think what pushed fans over the edge with the set list is because this is Warrior's Dance. if it was just some random festival spot, most people wouldn't care and pretty much expect it. a couple of unexpected tracks at WDF is all people seem to have wanted to make it special like the MK one. shit, all they needed to do is open with Break & Enter and doubt anyone would have really been complaining as much.
but i still love them and would still go to a show even if i knew what to expect.
because it's the fucking Prodigy
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streamblenda
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:13 pm |
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CorporalPosts: 376Location: BelgiumJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:59 pm
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Prodigy totally turned into a theatrical band now . They always had this aspect in their live shows but as they got older everything became more stale and less creative.
I saw them live 36 times but for the last 2 years I can't be bothered anymore to travel around to see the same performance over and over again.
It's like one of your favorite movies, after seeing it for a 'zillion' times you loose interest although you still appreciate the content.
I will always love the Prodigy's music. Sadly I have to say that they lost their edge and I fear a bit that Liam can't keep up with the rapidly evolving electronic music scene.
All you guys can't deny that he should be less lazy and get out of his comfort zone. What is the challenge of pressing the space bar over and over again and play 2 or 3 (often out of tone) notes over the track?
He should practice more or redefine the concept of the live show. They just rely on their huge lightrig and heavy soundsystem. I bet they never have rehearsals.
Why can't he play the melodies of omen, voodoo people, take me to the hospital,... live? Or let Leo trigger drum samples through a roland V drum.
Even the links where he slows down the tempo seem programmed.
But at the end of the day they earn shitloads and the crowd always goes mental.
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Nightmare
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:15 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 2669Joined: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:04 pm
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NEOREV wrote: So when people complain, they're not saying the show sucks... they just want that element of surprise back and the uniqueness that each show had.
Exactly in 100%! An element of surprise. I drove more than 1000km to hear different, surprising gig. No new tracks because new material is still in progress - ok, that's fine and I understand this but what is the problem to play Break & Enter, Rhythm Of Life, Back 2 Skool, No Good etc. ? The only thing that surprised me is Weather Experience.
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NEOREV
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:19 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 3847Location: USAJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:56 pm
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it's funny because listening back to their live shows it seems 2004-2006 was one of their more experimental times during the AONO era, a not as loved as album as the rest, but still seemed to push the band to try different things on stage and structures to tracks seemed to change a bit here and there. Liam has four laptops on stage, i think he should work on pulling out some tricks. and if it's all about being able to keep the live drummer and guitar following along to stick with basic structures, then drop the live drummer and guitarist and go back to experimenting with the live sets. do some smaller intimate shows where they don't the backing band, as much as i respect Rob and Leo, and let Liam fuck around with songs more like the old days.
Kieron was my favorite live drummer of theirs, he seemed to really be able to play along with Liam's beats while still adding his own thing to it. Also Gizz Butt was a great live guitarist for them because he didn't just strum along. Some of his crazy sounds over Their Law was awesome and added something new to it.
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crock
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:05 am |
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PrivatePosts: 155Location: AmsterdamJoined: Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:02 am
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as NEOREV pointed out, the band plays the same setlist either at their shows or festivals, they even play the same running time. tell me a fucking band that does that?
past 3 years have been shit, never, i repeat, NEVER a setlist has remain so unchangeable for so long in this band history.
regardings the hits, i seriously couldnt give a shit for them, sure play them at festival, but fuck christ sake you can drop them at your own shows and play any of the 50 plus songs you got from your catalogue.
Dont say that times have changed, because i use to red nekos reviews, go there and read her reviews, check the damn setlists. never this band has become more predictable than now.
lets go back in time, wasnt OOS a hit (returned to the setlist in 2004 or so at a show in Dublin, suggested by neko forum member desbot, didnt it work and remained in the setlist since then?
wasnt no good a hit and has been dropped, in and out over the years since? same with voodoo people...
and dont throw democracy into gigs setlist, thats absurd, just because the majority are bandwagons they dont adapt their sets to it. this isnt karaoke or top of the pops, the band playes what they want and if they want to play this crap, i stand with my middle finger at them, because its just LAZY, no other fucking excuse about it.
any one can go to the shows if they are willing to. im not and i wont to go see the same shit over and over again. i rather waste my money on other bands, even bands i have seen several times before, because i know, they wont play the same fucking piece of sheet (yes sheet, not shit) setlist from last year or two years ago.
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Anzipex
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:07 am |
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CorporalPosts: 355Location: MoscowJoined: Fri May 23, 2008 6:10 pm
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untitled6
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:16 am |
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GeneralPosts: 3120Location: LithuaniaJoined: Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:18 pm
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gnobal
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:20 am |
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PrivatePosts: 139Location: IsraelJoined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:49 pm
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While the different sides of the setlist discussion are well expressed here (h/t NEOREV, evans, others) I would like to offer my perspective.
In 2009, when The Prodigy started touring after IMD came out, the half-hits-half-IMD setlist made sense and the majority of fans, I believe, were happy. So how long is it OK for a band to use the same setlist? I think 1.5-2 years makes sense if you're going around the world, but that's arguable.
Basically for me the setlist complaints started making sense about 18 months ago, which is why I don't think there's room to talk about the demise of the band, or about them turning into this thing or that thing. In reality, if they want to tour right now, I don't think they have a choice. If the setlist won't be half hits, it won't appeal to the massive crowds that go to see The Prodigy. That's just my opinion and I realize it's arguable too. So my conclusion is that they either have to continue with the same setlist until the new album is out, or not do any live shows at all right now. I prefer the first option.
As for WDF Bellgrade, I think the guys created high expectations by:
1. Calling it WDF, and after Milton Keynes that by itself was a trigger for high expectations.
2. Saying that the setlist will include 4-5 new tracks.
3. Not saying what the setlist will be, thus making people hope it will be vastly different.
So although I enjoyed WDF Belgrade as much as I can possibly enjoy a live show, I really wanted to hear more of the old stuff, not just a short version of The Weather Experience that was played in MK. That's the result of high expectations.
I still think the setlist must always remain half hits, but that is not to say that new hits can't replace old ones. IMD (the album) gave us Omen, IMD, RWTW, TMTTH and WD, new hits which can replace whichever old hits you're not interested in hearing anymore (for me it's probably Their Law and Firestarter, but I'm sure each of us has a different preference).
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Dazzle
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:48 am |
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There is a way around this! The band need to start playing for 2 hours like a headline slot should be. That way the generic set list stays in place but also they have another half an hour to mix it up and throw some other tracks in the mix.
Its outragous that a band seem to think its ok to headline a show with a 90 minute set. To me thats the main support slot not the headline act.
Its laziness pure and simple. There are bands touring the world doing 3 hour shows each night and giving their fans what they want and some of these bands are proper getting on yet they go and play because they love to play. The Prodigy dont look like they can be arsed anymore.
They need to up their game and up it big time.
If the same set gets played at the next show im spinning on my heals and going home. Why waste my money to go watch a show ive seen numerous times since 09. Might as well stay at home and save my cash and watch Worlds on Fire
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KurtHectic
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:55 am |
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CaptainPosts: 644Joined: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:12 am
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If that's true about headline bands play 2 hours, then fuck yeah the band is lazy plain and simple. Fix up your game ya old farts! Still a great band though
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Nightmare
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:00 am |
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Chavah
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:35 am |
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gava wrote: Chavah wrote: I missed the whole gig and basically all the gigs, but hey i was hanging out in the backstage with Keith, Liam and Skrillex any interesting backstage stories you can share? I'm tired of this setlist talk :D
Video from the backstage I made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HabZAezC9cs&feature=plcp
And one I found (thats me with the giant hair)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em7t3bp1 ... ce=message
Tbh no special stories, I tried to take a pic with Keith but he totally ignored me (or didn't hear idk...), tried to take a pic with Liam who was very nice n cheerful (drunk I guess ) just to find out my phone died ... So no pics, motherfuck it. I didn't wanna talk to them much either cuz I was so drunk and I thought I would annoy them so whatever...
Keith's wife is tall as fuck btw. And very pretty.
I took a pic with Rob and about 43909758765 pics with Skrillex cuz I was so drunk everytime I saw him I asked to take a pic again cuz I kept forgetting that I already have lol
One more video I made from the stage while Skrillex was on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKfS8uVeSpE
That's all I've got.
I wish I was more sober that's all
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untitled6
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:11 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 3120Location: LithuaniaJoined: Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:18 pm
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