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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:10 am
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We must believe in TP, they are talented people,they created themselves from nothing...if new album is not that good as we expected, we must understand why.
When IMD came out i expected one day IMD 2.0
sounded incomplete and not that crazy like nasty and mescaline.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:14 am
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TMWKTM wrote:
I love Girls and it was a brilliant track, actually ahead of its time back then, because a few years later the Justice sound was all the rage. Was just wrong place at the wrong time, and ultimately that album failed, and maybe an even bigger problem ended up being that they couldn't/wouldn't play it live.


I was looking today at the biggest sellers on iTunes, in the Prodigy tracks, and they ended up being:
- Breathe
- Firestarter
- Smack My Bitch Up
- Breathe (Zeds Dead Remix)
- Spitfire
and other FotL tracks...

I had a smile at seeing Spitfire ranking so high up, but didn't get why Girls ended up so low, at like 73rd. for me, Spitfire and Girls together are THE prodigy sound, the first one raw and powerful, the second one sexy and futuristic. they're the tracks that had me become a fan, so I'm still perplex as to why Girls isn't a bit more popular



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:25 am
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the funny thing is... it's already invaded my head and I keep listening to it over and over again :lol:

as much as dumb and straightforward the tune is, it is also very catchy and atmospheric! mad shit!

the quick off time beat start is fucking ace



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:44 am
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feelish wrote:
TMWKTM wrote:
I love Girls and it was a brilliant track, actually ahead of its time back then, because a few years later the Justice sound was all the rage. Was just wrong place at the wrong time, and ultimately that album failed, and maybe an even bigger problem ended up being that they couldn't/wouldn't play it live.


I was looking today at the biggest sellers on iTunes, in the Prodigy tracks, and they ended up being:
- Breathe
- Firestarter
- Smack My Bitch Up
- Breathe (Zeds Dead Remix)
- Spitfire
and other FotL tracks...

I had a smile at seeing Spitfire ranking so high up, but didn't get why Girls ended up so low, at like 73rd. for me, Spitfire and Girls together are THE prodigy sound, the first one raw and powerful, the second one sexy and futuristic. they're the tracks that had me become a fan, so I'm still perplex as to why Girls isn't a bit more popular

Wrong place at the wrong time. Like I said, few years later it was the Justice/Ed Banger electro era and that sound was big. But also they were a victim of their own success. FOTL was so big, nothing was ever going to follow it up. Not to mention the US market for electronic music was totally dead by the time AONO came out... only to be revived in the Dubstep/EDM era a few years later (to the present). The stop and start single with Baby's Got A Temper - they didn't really have a choice at that point, they needed to do a 180 on everyone and just be like "ok Prodigy isn't just Firestarter and Keith doing punk rock lyrics".

I'm glad they went the Girls route and went through that phase of exorcising the FOTL era from their system, ultimately it made them reinvent themselves and bring things back to their roots in many ways on the last album, while still updating it to a new audience. Even if you think about the way they handle themselves online - all the social media stuff, Dugdale videos, etc. that only came around when they were forced to reinvent themselves to a new generation. They used to be so bad with that kind of stuff, this site and Neko's seemed to be some of the only places that had any info on Prodigy back in the AONO days.

Anyways, went off the ranch a bit there... point being, I liked that they went through the Girls phase at the time, but at the same time I can understand them not wanting to do it again, so having a somewhat "typical" sounding Prodigy track as the lead single, I wouldn't start screwing yet if you don't like it, I'm sure there will be plenty of other tunes you will dig. Liam's never done an album in only one style.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:54 am
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TMWKTM wrote:
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To all those that think this is not groundbreaking etc. I'm not attacking your opinions, but I think Liam would be a fool to put a groundbreaking track as a first single after a fucking 6 years wait or whatever the time was. No matter what he would release, it will be bashed by those that set their expectations high, and loved by those that set them lower when they realized that it's ridiculous to have them high. It's simply way too much time, to make ANY of our opinions here reasonable at all. Therefore, I think we can lock the topic and delete it afterwards because any reasonable feedback anyone might have, will be here after we can hear more tracks. Trololol.

Ya the thing is Liam already tried flipping the script on everybody once with the first single of AONO, "Girls", and what happened? Nobody understood it, except for us die-hard Prodigy fans. The rest of the world was like, "umm what? Where's Keef? Where's the guitars? I don't get it!" because that's what they expected after FOTL. In retrospect if they could do it all over again I'm sure they'd have made Spitfire the lead single on that album and people would look at that album very differently.

I love Girls and it was a brilliant track, actually ahead of its time back then, because a few years later the Justice sound was all the rage. Was just wrong place at the wrong time, and ultimately that album failed, and maybe an even bigger problem ended up being that they couldn't/wouldn't play it live. I know it's an old Prodigy cliche, but this will be a good live track and if the rest of the album is more Keith/Maxim focused, I have no problem with that.

I was completely expecting a "Keith single" this time around, and ya it's nothing groundbreaking and does sound like something off the last album, but I'm not really expecting Liam to change the world at 43 years old or completely change their sound anymore.

They made a very "Prodigy-sounding" record as a lead single. Doesn't mean everything else will sound like this anymore than Girls sounds like Action Radar, or Run With The Wolves sounds like Thunder.


That's one of the most spot on analysis I've read in while.

When I first heard Girls, I hadn't tracked what they were up to and I was totally caught off guard. I was at work and at the end of the day, my boss played it in our studio. He asked us if we knew what it was, and I didn't get it. He told us "it's the latest from The Prodigy", and all I could say was "no... way..."
Info was sparse at the time, and it really did sound different from anything Liam had done before.
After a decade, I can't say it's one of my favorites.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:54 am
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TMWKTM wrote:
I can understand them not wanting to do it again, so having a somewhat "typical" sounding Prodigy track as the lead single, I wouldn't start screwing yet if you don't like it, I'm sure there will be plenty of other tunes you will dig. Liam's never done an album in only one style.

I love Nasty, listened to it at least 50 times over the last 30 hours.

it's just that I feel there's an album worth of stuff that we're missing, from the early 2000's, to make the Prodigy sound complete. tracks like Heatwave, Warning, and even Trigger and Nuclear, is what I, for a long time, wanted more of

on that matter, IMD was a bit of a deception, but with TDIME going into the darker side, I'm happy



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:02 am
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feelish wrote:
TMWKTM wrote:
I can understand them not wanting to do it again, so having a somewhat "typical" sounding Prodigy track as the lead single, I wouldn't start screwing yet if you don't like it, I'm sure there will be plenty of other tunes you will dig. Liam's never done an album in only one style.

I love Nasty, listened to it at least 50 times over the last 30 hours.

it's just that I feel there's an album worth of stuff that we're missing, from the early 2000's, to make the Prodigy sound complete. tracks like Heatwave, Warning, and even Trigger and Nuclear, is what I, for a long time, wanted more of

on that matter, IMD was a bit of a deception, but with TDIME going into the darker side, I'm happy


Very true, and that missing album's lead single is BGAT.
"Yeah, I don't know where all that's stuff's now, man. Probably on some old DAT in a drawer, you know what I mean?"
I call BS. We've been Liamed way to often to believe what that guy says.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:09 am
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it could sound like a blasphemy to some people, but I'd be willing to give back IMD if we could have that album

but hey, I'm not Liam :)



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:16 am
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feelish wrote:
it could sound like a blasphemy to some people, but I'd be willing to give back IMD if we could have that album

but hey, I'm not Liam :)

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:16 am
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feelish wrote:
it could sound like a blasphemy to some people, but I'd be willing to give back IMD if we could have that album

but hey, I'm not Liam :)


I'd give about half of AONO for it, no hesitation.


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I think you're all mental. AONO is a unique album but the tracks on it are way stronger than Nuclear and Trigger. BGAT doesn't even come into the conversation. And to not have IMD come out to hear those tracks and have that album instead??

Liam has his faults but he does have a pretty decent quality control, we've seen Nuclear, Trigger, Little Goblin, AWOL, Jetfighter, Dogbite to name a few that have been scrapped. That being said they all had potential but obviously not good enough to appear in studio form.

You were right Feelish, pure and utter blasphemy!!!



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:53 am
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you don't understand. I want BOTH aono version 1 and version 2 :twisted:



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:12 am
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feelish wrote:
you don't understand. I want BOTH aono version 1 and version 2 :twisted:

Yeah but to give up IMD for it? Nah i'm not having it. IMD is a strong album.

Thunder>Trigger

Worlds on fire>Nuclear

Run>Babys got a temper

Omen Reprise>Little Goblin

However I really can't judge anymore than the ones above but i trust Liam's quality control to be effective enough that his strongest songs came out in AONO and IMD



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:30 am
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I trust Liam's judgement. I may not always hear the music I want to hear from them but I respect him for doing his own thing and picking his own favourites rather than trying to please the fans and people he doesn't even know - the "Invaders". And at the end of the day a bad prodigy track always still has moments of genius. So meh. Fuck em.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:38 am
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When Jilted came out I was 16 and I was exploring music from scratch. I was blown away by that album. Same goes for TFOTL.
Now I am 35 and it's hard to get blown away anymore. Having said that I recognize the novelty in AONO and the raw power of IMD. I liked both albums and I'm still listening to them.
I also think Nasty is a very decent track and it has Prodigy written all over it.

IMO Liam is never going to reach the peak of MFTJG and TFOTL, or even Experience for that matter. I feel he needs to start something else on the side and further explore his creativity. I wouldn't want the band to disappear. I think there's room for two projects, seeing how it takes an average of 6 years per album :roll:



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