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Mowgli
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:45 pm |
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CorporalPosts: 353Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 4:26 pm
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Good post cheggers.
As much as Liam has said Ibiza will be the anthem of the record and bash all the bullshit DJs, I think he's on dangerous grounds there. Prodigy music has almost always had some kind of message of them being underdogs of some sort. Or angry at least. "Invaders Must Die". "Fuck 'em and their law".
Those tracks have delivered their message without being too obvious. I hope Ibiza isn't going to turn out as that Sleaford Mod ranting "Fuck you all DJ usb-cunt bollocks shit crap fuck!" Because few years away that track has all the qualities of become the embarrasment point of the record if it's going to turn out like that.
Some of the things Liam said in that interview made him look like a grandpa who doesn't know what's going on in the scene. I just hope he doesn't put out those statements in the form of Prodigy music, you know? He was once young and created a new sound, he afforded to be arrogant and on point. Now he should be more carefull with his words sometimes.
Let's hope the track will match the hype!
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Fakin ill
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:06 pm |
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SergeantPosts: 489Location: JupiterJoined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:00 pm
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A short swearing track? Dear god.
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:12 pm |
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Elsewhere
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:26 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 2881Location: ESTJoined: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:30 pm
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cheggers wrote: What liam doesn't realise is british underground dance music is very very healthy right now, swamp 81, Hessle Audio, houndstooth, R&S, Night Slugs have been making incredible british music over the past 10 years and changed the underground scene.. Liam on the other hand has been listening to wannabe NME darlings around london and playing his punk 7" records and drinking champaign.. He is 100% disconnected.
this underground ur talking about, it has no energy.
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Prodigal Son
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:28 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 1090Location: SerbiaJoined: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:55 am
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We all heard rokweiller and get ur fight on. Those tracks are way better than nasty, so Im not afraid for the album. And Liam said that nasty is last track hes done for the album, so maybe it was rushed.
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Fakin ill
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:30 pm |
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SergeantPosts: 489Location: JupiterJoined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:00 pm
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cheggers
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:39 pm |
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GruntPosts: 11Location: a green placeJoined: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:49 am
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Elsewhere wrote: cheggers wrote: What liam doesn't realise is british underground dance music is very very healthy right now, swamp 81, Hessle Audio, houndstooth, R&S, Night Slugs have been making incredible british music over the past 10 years and changed the underground scene.. Liam on the other hand has been listening to wannabe NME darlings around london and playing his punk 7" records and drinking champaign.. He is 100% disconnected.
this underground ur talking about, it has no energy.
go back to bed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPDylsg3sDI
no energy? as i said.. liam is out of touch.
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LifeIsAsLifeDoes
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:02 pm |
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Cheggers I'm loving your posts but that tune you posted sounds like a kid's got into their dad's sample box
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Elsewhere
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:16 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 2881Location: ESTJoined: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:30 pm
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cheggers wrote: Elsewhere wrote: cheggers wrote: What liam doesn't realise is british underground dance music is very very healthy right now, swamp 81, Hessle Audio, houndstooth, R&S, Night Slugs have been making incredible british music over the past 10 years and changed the underground scene.. Liam on the other hand has been listening to wannabe NME darlings around london and playing his punk 7" records and drinking champaign.. He is 100% disconnected.
this underground ur talking about, it has no energy. go back to bed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPDylsg3sDIno energy? as i said.. liam is out of touch.
what i meant was they can't relate to something like this... it's not their thing. it's still bit too mellow.
there have always been OK things going on in the underground... always been.. but Prodigy are not to fit the latest fashion,, they are always trying to do their own thing..
they are trying to oppose the mainstream. they never had bad things to say towards stuff in the underground.
this stuff actually is good for my ears... and to be honest, i'm not opposing that they could come up with something completely different with every album.. i agree, Nasty isn't 100% that. it's good average. simple and direct like they described.
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SPECIAL FORCES
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:18 pm |
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Prodigal Son wrote: We all heard rokweiller and get ur fight on. Those tracks are way better than nasty, so Im not afraid for the album. And Liam said that nasty is last track hes done for the album, so maybe it was rushed.
You are very right! Thats why i said that i do not understand what he thinks while he makes the single choices.
btw who remembers this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiFTdIUXXlc
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:24 pm |
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i do
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cheggers
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:28 pm |
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GruntPosts: 11Location: a green placeJoined: Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:49 am
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Elsewhere wrote: cheggers wrote: Elsewhere wrote: cheggers wrote: What liam doesn't realise is british underground dance music is very very healthy right now, swamp 81, Hessle Audio, houndstooth, R&S, Night Slugs have been making incredible british music over the past 10 years and changed the underground scene.. Liam on the other hand has been listening to wannabe NME darlings around london and playing his punk 7" records and drinking champaign.. He is 100% disconnected.
this underground ur talking about, it has no energy. go back to bed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPDylsg3sDIno energy? as i said.. liam is out of touch. what i meant was they can't relate to something like this... it's not their thing. it's still bit too mellow. there have always been OK things going on in the underground... always been.. but Prodigy are not to fit the latest fashion,, they are always trying to do their own thing.. they are trying to oppose the mainstream. they never had bad things to say towards stuff in the underground. this stuff actually is good for my ears... and to be honest, i'm not opposing that they could come up with something completely different with every album.. i agree, Nasty isn't 100% that. it's good average. simple and direct like they described.
ah I understand now, so you're coming at it from.. Liams point of view? I guess i understand your viewpoint now..
But my problem is.. liam is commenting on something he hasn't got the foggiest about, literally talking through his hole in order to shift a few records that guardian interview was seriously cringe..let me take a few direct quotes
“Dance music at the moment is so fucking dead,” spits Liam Howlett,
“Producers are too safe, they rely on being retro. It’s fucking bollocks. There’s no pushing forward any more.”
my question is.. wtf does liam know about dance music NOW?
Over the past few years he's got switch and skream into the studio with him to try bring him up to date (its questionable if they're the right people to do that)
The prodigy stopped trying to be the prodigy many many years ago, but as i said thats just my opinion..im sure if you ask someone just discovering the band now they'll say Nasty is a perfect representation of the prodigy sound.
But as for producers being "safe" ...to me.. nasty is the epitome of a "safe" choice of prodigy single..
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:29 pm |
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raggedflag wrote: i do
You are the man!
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Blacklabel
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:30 pm |
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cheggers wrote:
lol. None. Why does this new "energetic" dance tune sound like a crappier version of early 90's Meat Beat Manifesto?
And that was an example of "forward" thinking dance music?
Jesus.
Get onto some Flying Lotus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G14Gx2kCd9w
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imago
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:32 pm |
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The current rumored plan just doesn’t make any sense. Everyone who wanted the track already has it from pre-orders, the video, Spotify or iTunes since last week. Releasing it a month later is strange.
Maybe the remixes are really strong and will give the track a much needed boost.
It they follow the same pattern like IMD then Nasty is just a tease like IMD was. It was a digital release with a video and a premiere on Zane Lowe a few months before the album. The first real single was Omen a few days before the release of the album. IMD as a single came out a few months later as a revisited much better version (Liam H Re-amped).
AONO had Memphis bells as a digital tease and then later Girls a real single.
So I think there will be one more single before the album release. Probably in March if not in February instead of Nasty.
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