Ha, it seemed a surreally valid comparison. Someone releases an IP, and now the community modifies it to make it better. But that's usually making something great even greater. Giving it more life. A new level, a different attribute on that chest armour etc. But releasing pretty weak music and leaving it to the fans to turn it into what your work should have come up with doesn't sit well with me at all!



I tried. I tried to give this another shot (in honour of your attempt) and basically nearly threw up after 20 seconds. That's me done with this track. I won't try it again.

Appreciate the link, will have a look. There wasn't any further point to this post btw was there?

Hate to say this but I lost interest in this track... it mostly has to do with the vocals, maybe it will grow on me more if we get an instrumental.

For folks who say the track has no bass...
https://youtu.be/XYlh4G-AjrQ

Not really, except maybe wanting to point out that posting about your go-to album when you're depressed isn't really news.

Hope you feel better soon

No bass for sure


https://youtu.be/OZvwHSgSWG4

It isn't, and I wasn't?



Well that depends on the 2nd on November....

At least you had some to lose.

I think what they meant was "This track is no Ace Of Bass". Which goes in line with the recent invasion of Abba fans.

*Bass: (60 - 250) Hz
*Sub Bass: (20 - 60) Hz

3,2,1...Fight!

For folks who need to brush up on their frequencies...
https://www.teachmeaudio.com/mixing/tec ... -spectrum/

Ah, the Internet. Or: "You can be a specialist, too!"

All of you who are judging "bass" solo by looking at a fft or a spectrum analyzer or some light up the room-gadget: You are completely missing the point. Power in bass, as phatness in drums, is mainly a perceived acoustic thing. Everyone can make a track with 10 HZ at 0dBfs and none of you will ever hear that shit. It's not about how loud something is at what frequency. That's beginner talk. It's about bass performance and this track performs badly, just because the perceived bass authority isn't there. If you want effective bass / overall energy distribution, look at what contemporary D&B does. The effective use of bass is about tricking you into perceiving more of it than there is. And the less there is (without sacrificing the meat of it, obv.), the louder you can go, which in turn, if you know what you're doing, makes the whole tune and its low end seem louder. Google residual effect or just check out some master class of what Ed Rush or Reso are doing. Howlett has been overtaken long time ago and the best mixing and mastering engineers can't pump in what he missed. This needs to be fixed on arrangement and composition levels. Something that Holwett doesn't seem interested anymore. And it's not the job of a mastering engineer to put bass in a track that doesn't work well with in low end.

Yes, Mayhem's video only vibrates with each bass hit because the song has no bass in it. Yes, Liam has no idea how to write music with bass in it. Gotcha. Mastering engineers don't have to put any bass back in the track because the bass is there. Baffling, absolutely baffling.

Someone watched some drum n bass tutorials and became the bass police. Beginner talk.

I guess Ekko has probably explained it better/gone into more detail, but the whole point of what I was getting at with bass wasn't that there was a lack of it, but that the length and/or frequency of it seemed different to what I'm kind of used to in Prodigy tunes (see previous parts of this thread for several examples of people talking about a lack of sub/low end, etc, which is probably getting at the same thing.)

Obviously what I posted went to the other extreme completely, I added longer length to the entire lot, but if I was to try and do it exactly how I wanted it to sound I'd have had to make several different tracks and take way longer to get even close. You don't have to fear me now though with my Prodigy tune butchering links, I've been playing with my pocket operator instead.

Yes, Mayhem's video only vibrates with each bass hit because the song has no bass in it. Yes, Liam has no idea how to write music with bass in it. Gotcha. Mastering engineers don't have to put any bass back in the track because the bass is there. Baffling, absolutely baffling.

Someone watched some drum n bass tutorials and became the bass police.[/quote]

why do you take as a personal offence any criticism whatsoever to The Prodigy? It seems that you desperately need to like everything he does even though his best days are long gone. What Ekko has said, without sarcasm or bad words on it, is something that many people can easily see.

Sometimes I think that there's a competition about becoming the number 1 fan and that is pretty ridiculous.