didn't coment 4 few years, but thise track deserves one. I mean what a pice of genius thise is. Makes me wanne just get out 2 the party and dance all night, just the way i first heard prodigy in 1992 with OOS. Genius. Take a while and listen 2 it on the 3rd day....masterpice.
And 4 those who dont like Keith and Maxim vocals...It just had 2 be a statement from the band. Just imagine our frontmans shouting it on the gig, with Liam fist up in the air!
I mean it's just amazing 4 me that that band goes on and on making albums. What a band those guys are. RESPECT

i can hear maxim on this track but not sure which bit keith is singing anyone help ?

Keith comes in towards the end. From the 2nd chorus onwards.



Still listening to this.
With the biggest smile on my face.

Dancefloor destroyer.

mate, this style that you are talking about already exists since 2005ish and it's called Hardcore Breaks, producers from the UK the rest of Europe and other parts of the globe are doing it,most of it is a bit repetitive and generic but some outstanding tunes have been made, check this 92-inspired corker by Ben Venom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9oOD6tEcBM

some people are already doing what we want Liam to do

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Why should something be wrong with me? There's no connection in what you said.

A Short Music Lesson/Analysis of "We Live Forever", which may obnoxious, stating the obvious or interesting depending on your point of view

Structurally, "WLF" is similar to a rave tune, in that unlike modern genres, which tend to have one big drop (or sometimes two) and unlike techno or trance (remember trance?) which build a groove over time and has long build-ups, "WLF" has multiple peaks and troughs, in the hyperactive, e-infused manner of the early 1990s. Moreover, the synths sounds just scream "rave" at you, along with the sped-up Kool Keith vocal sample.

Other elements are not so rave-y. The main vocal hook would have sounded out of place on Experience, and there is a distinct lack of rave piano chords and string sounds. Everything is dark-sounding in the vein of Prodigy records from theMFTJG ear onwards.

I agree with whoever said that this sounds like rave might have done if it had developed along different lines and didn't split up into genres like jungle, etc. And it does not sound quite like the hardcore breaks/breakbeat genres of the mid-2000s either.

Musically, this is classic Liam, despite the fact that the main riff is lifted from a South Central jam. It could be argued that they use the "Liam scale" anyway and that he is copying them copying him. That aside, what he does with this riff is more sophisticated that what they do, because of the chords that are implied.

The main riff appears to be in the key of F, as it goes F F# A A# C C# E F - essentially playing all the notes in the octave of what is called the byzantine scale. This is a variation on the (middle) eastern sound Liam likes so much and that we hear in so many Prodigy tunes.

The drop is where it becomes interesting, and cooler than in the South Central example. Since the first note is F we are led to believe that the whole tune will be in the key of F, but when the beat drops and the bassline kicks in, we realise that it is actually in the key of A#m (I don't have perfect pitch, btw. I had to get play along to figure out exactly which notes are involved). This achieves an effect that is really moreish -- but it is by no means original.

Liam uses it very prominently in "One Love". In that tune, there is a keyboard riff whose root note is sort of ambiguous. Just before the drop, Liam introduces a deep, long bass note that seems to tell us what the root note is. But when the beat drops, it turns out that was a red herring and things fall into place in a different way than you expect, and very satisfyingly so. One Love does a similar thing with the rhythm as well. The keyboard riff when heard in isolation has no rhythmic anchor, because we don't know where the downbeat - the one - is. When the beat drops we find out, and that's another way in which the feel of the tune goes from uncertain to locked down in a way that is pleasing and gets the adrenaline pumping. "One Love" goes from tension to release in two ways simultaneously. "WLF" is not quite as clever, but it is still fucking awesome.

"WLF" is similar to "TMTTH" in many ways (rave sounds, bassline, breakbeats, pitched-up vocal sample, main riff used only in the breakdowns), but it doesn't try to shoehorn in elements from throughout the Prodigy's career, and is therefore more successful in my opinion. It also helps that there is no "Along came a spider" lyric, and no guitars.

I really do like this tune, but it's not exactly Bach or Radiohead and there is a danger that it might get old fairly quickly. So far that hasn't happened. I still really like it. In fact, I will go and listen to it again, now.

(EDIT: A# minor, not A#)

Excellent post. I agree with the Hardcore Breaks part and with the annoying vocals by Keith on TMTTH which ruin a track that could have been much better

Thanks for the Ben Venom track, jonyintheplace. You made my day, mate.

I don't want Liam to do this. This is a generic jungle beat Prodigy knock off without the soul. It's not rubbish but it doesn't do anything for me. WLF is a tonne better - although isn't it nice to be talking about old school Prodigy again! The real Prodigy.

WLF is the only track I've listened to since its release.

It's brilliant up till 1:45 then it just goes unbelievably good at 2:16.

Oh how I've missed this. Destroy put in a decent attempt at it on TDIME but pales compares to this.

Out of space part 2.

Amazing throwback style track. Fitting vocal. I like how some of you really broke it down in description.
Such a shame that THIS could be the only 10/10 banger. From 6 of 10 tracks we've heard i fear that the final 4 can beat this one at all.

cheers, there are plenty of tunes like this out there but I should not post stuff like this in the news section. I'm a real sucker of the hardcore-rave sounds from 91-93

set up a new hardcore rave topic? could do with some upgraded rave tunes!

done mate, check the Music section.

We Live Forever sounds more IMD than Experience imo, but it is better at recreating the rave sounds than TMTTH in which Keith spoils the tune. The perfect rave tune by The Prodigy is Your Love.