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< PRODIGY NEWS ~ The Prodigy - No Tourists (The New Album) 2nd Nov 2018 |
trigger/nuclear
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:11 pm |
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Finally I had my first listen. Great album! My biggest fear was it will be a lightweight retro dance album, but luckily this album is hard and heavy. The title track is everything! This is the track I've waited for since the banned AONO v1. This album is a perfect short punch in the face. Oh and Timebomb is fukin cool, but it would be better without the lady chipmunk vocals.
One thing I very miss from this album is Keith and Maxim's vocals. They are very rarerly appear on the tracks.
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Quiggers
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:14 pm |
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Smokey wrote: Review from a dude in his 40s who's obsessed over this band since he was in high school:
I'm sure I'll get lots of flack for this but it's all good. I've listened to the album a few times now and all in all, it listens to me like an album that had a broad idea behind it but time led us to the album we got. I truly believe that had Liam not been bound to a new record deal*, this would be a longer record and quite possibly a better one.
This isn't to say that this thing isn't good, it's just not up to my standard. Here's where I'm gonna get smacked around: it reminds me of Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned. At first, I loved that album. Now that I'm over a decade removed from the release, I'm lucky if I keep 2-3 tracks from the thing in my music rotation. Be honest: Phoenix and Medusa's Path are filler. Plus, frankly, the re-boots of Girls, Hotride and The Way It Is are infinitely better than the ones used on the record. Can we say there was needless filler on their first three albums? Hell no.
I also hear this thing and feel like it could easily be a compilation of leftovers from the past three albums. There's nothing here we haven't heard before and on every other prodigy album to date, I've heard something new from the master. (I'll never forget hearing "Thunder" the first time. Holy F*** with that reggae tone right into wall shaking bass!).
With that, I seriously think in the coming months there will be re-takes on these tracks (live and studio versions) that we'll all say "damn, this is better than the one on the album!". It's because of that that I draw such a comparision to AONO.
Others have mentioned the interview where Liam has something coming out soon again. I bet he does! I'm pretty certain he had a lot of tracks and ideas he was playing with for this album but BMG put him on a timeline that limited his ability to work more magic. Frankly, I think it would have been better for him had he gone the Trent Reznor route and released his stuff over three EPs also over a similar 18 month window. We would have gotten more tracks and that's a good thing, right? Hell, from what he's saying, we will anyway.
Basically, to end my rambling here, there are tracks on every album I blast the f*** out of to this day. Recent ones include "Spitfire", "Take Me To The Hospital", "The Day Is My Enemy" and "Get Your Fight On". For now, even though some of these tracks are really good, I just don't feel I need to rush to my Spotify and blast the bleep out of any of these things (although We Live Forever is quite close to that).
Awesome Tracks: Light Up the Sky, We Live Forever, Champions Of London, Timebomb Zone Wost Track To Ever Make It To A Prodigy Album: Boom Boom Tap---What in the holy hell is this turd?
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*-record deals with bigger labels lead to broader distribution, better paying tours and "ins" with big paying festivals. All great reasons to agree to get an album done far sooner than would be ideal for you I agree with much of your comment except for the part where you refer to Medusa'a Path as filler. That was actually a fine piece of work. Phoenix; Shoot Down; You'll be Under My Wheels (which Liam himself described as 'filler' in an interview at the time of the release of AONO) yes, Medusa'a Path, no.
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Quiggers
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:19 pm |
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Jr wrote: Yeah Geil wrote: The diversity of opinions is astonishing. I too find myself wondering how anyone could like No Tourists (the track) since I downright hate it. The opposite goes for Fight Fire With Fire. Anyhow, great to see that there is lots to love and to hate, lots of friction. That album does something to you Therefore alone I'd deem it a success. As an album, No Tourists does not feel like an album to me but a collection of stand alone tracks. It is not more than the sum of its parts. I can't really grasp what is missing... probably more time to digest. Maybe, however, it is because every track has immense weight and stands out from the group (for better or worse). That is why I don't really feel that the tracks belong to each other. This album could have used some skits (I love skits) or a breather like Climbatize or Weather Experience. Also, some tracks are surprisingly short or too long... I think we all agree that Need Some1 could either use some added element or be shorter (a skit maybe?), and I have often read that Timebomb Zone could have been longer (to which I agree too). In the end, No tourists feels like a loose collection of bangers that are to be added to their live gigs. how can you hate no tourist.. top 3, contesting with resonate and timebomb No Tourists is one of only a few tracks that I repeat listen to off the new album - that and Timebomb Zone get the most play. My only gripe with No Tourists is that I feel it is missing something - a hook, more vocals...something. Also, in relation to describing the album as a collection of standalone tracks, I would say that Boom Boom Tap, Resonate (both of which share the same sense of sparse production), COL, and GMAS do seem like they belong in the same album (they have a demo-ish - or empty - quality to the production) with drum noises and drops that don't seem a million miles apart. Some of the others, though do pull in different directions.
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UN
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:21 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 1113Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:05 am
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Strange no one mentioned the beats from NT are from Trigger
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trigger/nuclear
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:39 pm |
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UN wrote: Strange no one mentioned the beats from NT are from Trigger I just heard that this is the closest sounding track to AONO v1. Simply one of the best track since that era.
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Electronic_Punk®
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:17 pm |
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Prodigious ArabPosts: 4204Location: The Dark SideJoined: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:22 pm
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dirtyRotter
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:25 pm |
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SergeantPosts: 454Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:56 pm
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Am I the only one that thinks timebomb zone is utter shite? Worst one on the album
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Danny_G13
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:27 pm |
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Smokey wrote: Review from a dude in his 40s who's obsessed over this band since he was in high school:
I'm sure I'll get lots of flack for this but it's all good. I've listened to the album a few times now and all in all, it listens to me like an album that had a broad idea behind it but time led us to the album we got. I truly believe that had Liam not been bound to a new record deal*, this would be a longer record and quite possibly a better one.
This isn't to say that this thing isn't good, it's just not up to my standard. Here's where I'm gonna get smacked around: it reminds me of Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned. At first, I loved that album. Now that I'm over a decade removed from the release, I'm lucky if I keep 2-3 tracks from the thing in my music rotation. Be honest: Phoenix and Medusa's Path are filler. Plus, frankly, the re-boots of Girls, Hotride and The Way It Is are infinitely better than the ones used on the record. Can we say there was needless filler on their first three albums? Hell no.
I also hear this thing and feel like it could easily be a compilation of leftovers from the past three albums. There's nothing here we haven't heard before and on every other prodigy album to date, I've heard something new from the master. (I'll never forget hearing "Thunder" the first time. Holy F*** with that reggae tone right into wall shaking bass!).
With that, I seriously think in the coming months there will be re-takes on these tracks (live and studio versions) that we'll all say "damn, this is better than the one on the album!". It's because of that that I draw such a comparision to AONO.
Others have mentioned the interview where Liam has something coming out soon again. I bet he does! I'm pretty certain he had a lot of tracks and ideas he was playing with for this album but BMG put him on a timeline that limited his ability to work more magic. Frankly, I think it would have been better for him had he gone the Trent Reznor route and released his stuff over three EPs also over a similar 18 month window. We would have gotten more tracks and that's a good thing, right? Hell, from what he's saying, we will anyway.
Basically, to end my rambling here, there are tracks on every album I blast the f*** out of to this day. Recent ones include "Spitfire", "Take Me To The Hospital", "The Day Is My Enemy" and "Get Your Fight On". For now, even though some of these tracks are really good, I just don't feel I need to rush to my Spotify and blast the bleep out of any of these things (although We Live Forever is quite close to that).
Awesome Tracks: Light Up the Sky, We Live Forever, Champions Of London, Timebomb Zone Wost Track To Ever Make It To A Prodigy Album: Boom Boom Tap---What in the holy hell is this turd?
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*-record deals with bigger labels lead to broader distribution, better paying tours and "ins" with big paying festivals. All great reasons to agree to get an album done far sooner than would be ideal for you Maybe this is a generation gap - because I'm the same age, and aside, as the other reply to this post says, the diss of Medusa's Path, I have to mostly agree with this summary. It's a very divisive piece of work I must say!
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Danny_G13
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:28 pm |
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dirtyRotter wrote: Am I the only one that thinks timebomb zone is utter shite? Worst one on the album You may be. Chipmunk aside I found it ok. Not great, but ok. Worst to me remains the utter turd that is FFWF.
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Danny_G13
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:31 pm |
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Jr wrote: Danny_G13 wrote: The big thing which stands out here is the division. Back in the day we all loved everything.
Now we argue about it.
Prodigy are NOT as good as they used to be with new music.
Liam HAS lost his edge, and the standard of No Tourists is lower than what we used to expect.
That's not subjective, that's me comparing this with the older stuff.
Look how the vibe picked up after WLF - everyone loved it. There was universal agreement on here that it was a storming track.
And it is, but it's the only one. There are some decent tracks but the simple division over the album as a whole is just like what there was after NS1, FFWF and to an extent LUTS.
The harmony after WLF showed we do still know what good is - and when something falls below it from someone or thing we love, some of us find reasons to big it up and pretend we like it more than we do. That's happening here.
This album is listenable. It is ok in places, and really really good in one, maybe two - but this is not a classic Prodigy album on any level.
Anyone who says otherwise and truly believes it has different standards today to what I'm used to. Nah man the unified love for the first 3 albums is only what happened long after fotl. after experience people were dissing jilted, after jilted, people were dissing fat. Must say I've been around the block and rarely heard any attacks on those three albums. FWIW I'm not a huge fan of Jilted and never was. Quote: onwards, people are dissing everything after aono. After IMD, some people were dissing the day.
No one is dissing no tourist because of the day however...makes you wonder. TDIME had some killer tracks though. Deathray, Destroy, Enemy, Medicine, Rebel Radio. Just a few of them IMO. But I can really only say WLF is a strong one on NT. But that's just me.
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Harbinger
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:32 pm |
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dirtyRotter wrote: Am I the only one that thinks timebomb zone is utter shite? Worst one on the album Not utter shite but I'm not a fan of it. Sample grates on me.
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Prodigal Son
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:34 pm |
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GeneralPosts: 1090Location: SerbiaJoined: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:55 am
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Electronic_Punk® wrote: I think they maybe plan to release timebomb as a single and this is the rejected video. Btw the video is shit. No sense with the track. Timebomb is one of the best on the album and deserve a proper video and single release.
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sks2002
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:39 pm |
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1) Need Some1 It reminds me of) The Wolverhampton gig Need Some1 is a great song, it got a heavy beat and it has grown onto me. Its drumbeat is energetic with its alarm synth. overall) 7/10 2) Light up the Sky It reminds me of) Breathe, Spitfire, most of the IMD tracks. Light up the Sky is a beastful tune, it starts of with a upbeat sample and the lyrics are catchy. When the beat drops, it got an evil feel to it, making me want to rave in a caravan. It also has same sample as Breathe which I think is from one of the James Bond intros. It also has the spitfire synth (which makes me think that Liam used poison-202 on this track). This track will be look at as a Invaders era track. Overall) 9/10 3) We Live Forever Reminds me of) The whole experience era, Take Me to the Hospital, Get Your Fight on. We Live Forever is like if Liam brought a time machine and gone back to 1991. The only problem I got for it is that it's like Take me to the Hospital V3 because it got the same structure and samples other then that great track. Overall) 10/10 4) No Tourists Reminds me of) Dogbite, Gun Reprise, Medusa's Path, Baby's Got a Temper This track is taken from the album's name and I can see why. This track is a great song, it got a gun reprise feel to it at the start which make it an AONO feeling track at the start, then the drums come in which reminds me of Dogbite. The lyrics are just as catchy and the synths got a mixture between BGAT and it has a similar screaming sample as Medusa's Path. One of the tracks I will listen till I die. Overall) 10/10 5) Fight Fire with Fire Reminds me of) We Hate Everyone, Baby's got a Temper This track is looked at as one of the most controversial tension from the prodigy fans. Fans whining about the bass and its lyrics. Although not my cup of tea, it's a great track to listen to for once and awhile. Overall) 6/10 6) Timebomb Zone Reminds me of) Zeros and Ones (prodigy remix), Break and Enter, Voodoo People, Jericho. Timebomb Zone is a tune which is like We Live Forever. It got a 90s feel to it. It got the same bass like the remix of Zeros and Ones and it got the same atmosphere as Break and enter. One of the other tracks which I would listen till I die. Overall) 10/10 7) Champions of London Reminds me of) Nuclear, Fuel my Fire, Run, Voodoo People (pendulum remix), 2016 intro. Champions of London is a evil track at it's best. The drums reminds me of Nuclear and the chorus part got a Voodoo People (pendulum remix) part into it. Overall) 8/10 8) Boom Boom Tap Reminds me of) Stab, who the fuk is eddy crochan Boom Boom Tap is different in its own way. The heavy brass with the Andy Milonakis ONE WEEK SOBER sample is good. It sounds different to all of the other tracks but it has a 90s and 2000s feeling to it as well. Overall) 8/10 9) Resonate Reminds me of) Jetfighter, Breathe (Dubstep remix), spitfire, out of space, Wolverhampton gig. This track is an epic tune, loved it since I heard it in the Wolverhampton gig. Heavy bass, great drums, everything is on point. It even kept the epic bridge which reminds me of Spitfire and Out of Space which had the same synths/samples. Overall 11/10 10)Give me a Signal Reminds me of) dist 303 saw (kick it in), Phoenix, Nasty, Lyrical Terrorists, Nuclear, Altern-8 - Armageddon, Claustrophobic Sting This track is the best track for the album, it should be the next single. It's distorted voice makes it sounds sinister then it has the nasty synth in it. The 303 on here is the best. I would like to do an 90s remix to it. There Is one problem and it's that there is an error on there, it stops then plays. Overall) 100/10 The whole album It's one of the best albums Liam done since AONO, this might take it over. Overall 10/10
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Fakin ill
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:41 pm |
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SergeantPosts: 489Location: JupiterJoined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:00 pm
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My honest opinion about boom tap now.
It gets good at the 2:00 mark.
Thats when the energy kicks in.
Still, champions of london could have been arranged better i guess. Id wish there were more lyrics with Maxim and Keith in this one and as a filler for Resonate and Boom Tap. Just oneliners, not full lyrics.
Same with fight fire. Rather than lyrics, just repeat Everyone time to melt your mf face.
Thats where the Prodigy shines imo. Short oneliners repeated like in Poison. Not instrumental, not full lyrics.
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w0rlds0nf1r3
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:51 pm |
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Electronic_Punk® wrote: maaan I don't like this video at all, it's just a picture, with little movement :| for a track like this I don't feel it, sucks! there was some fan video on yt with Mescaline vid mashed into TBZ (hotel hallway goofyness with guys) and it worked missed opportunity
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