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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:21 pm
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it's really not that complicated. it's filters in motion... a wah sound or wah wah is just filters in motion.. liam tweaks live and those sounds are all old hardware synth sounds it's all there for you to just twist the filter cut off or resonance knob


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:14 am
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So ... do anyone know good PC software to make it ?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:22 am
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abletons good for the live sounding effect stuff you can use to make things sound live if u know what your doing and i have some retro remakes of moog's and all that for the pc but none of it can make the sound u hear in poison and voodoo people etc thats all hardware stuff, the pc just can't compare to the real deal



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:04 am
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What a pitty that I can`t ask liam about, what kind of stuff makes this effect :x I would like to buy this machine.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:04 am
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You can do it with a creative soundcard in realtime with creative software i.e.! Problem is, you don´t have all the single parts and pieces of a prodigy track if you want to use it for a prodigy tune. You only can do that effect on the complete source, but not only on melody or only on drums....

You need to divide the single elements of a track, but this is impossible...



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:19 am
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Yes I know that. So you think that filter isn`t applied on the whole sample, just on a part of it ... hmmm. It`s possible. But it could be applied on whole sample too ... :roll:

on this one : http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=d_cNvSVGRjM

This is my try to copy that filter, but I played that on keyboard : http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=xP2CU0tbfQI

.... but it doesn`t work like in oryginal. I maded it on Reaktor 4.0

And here liam applied this effect to short poison sample : http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxw8tffTImo

... so there mus be way to copy it on PC. If I only knew what type of filter or effect was used.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:30 pm
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have you tried bandpass notch or highpass filters?

try using them as you would a low pass filter for a wah wah effect. see how the sounds react. it's all experiment based


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:51 pm
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infact i need a little help

you know that effect that u use for vocals, it was used in firestarter its like this effect that makes u hear the vocals before the vocalist starts talking like in firestarter it goes like "aahhh (then) am the firestarter twisted firestarter" if anyone knows what im talking about lol

if you listen to firestarter (Instrumental) you'll hear it perfect

but could anyone care to tell me what that effect is etc ?



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:46 am
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It's just a low pass filter with a quick delay envelope, distortion and fucking reverb.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:16 am
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Deviant_Tech wrote:
It's just a low pass filter with a quick delay envelope, distortion and fucking reverb.
cheers :) :lol:



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:54 pm
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>>>--Coggles---» wrote:
Deviant_Tech wrote:
It's just a low pass filter with a quick delay envelope, distortion and fucking reverb.
cheers :) :lol:


Actually, I was referring to the original effect in question from MCMaxim.

The Firestarter effect you're talking about is simply reversing a sample and adding a volume envelope with a moderate attack for the build and zero release for that quick stop. Add some reverb and filter to taste.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:27 pm
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well cheers again :lol:



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:56 pm
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Deviant_Tech wrote:
It's just a low pass filter with a quick delay envelope, distortion and fucking reverb.


Can you copy it on a PC :?: :-D


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:05 pm
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MCMaxim wrote:
Deviant_Tech wrote:
It's just a low pass filter with a quick delay envelope, distortion and fucking reverb.


Can you copy it on a PC :?: :-D


Yeah... any simply analog VSTi can do it. Go download one here... http://www.kvraudio.com/


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:17 pm
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Thanks ! There is a lot of it. May you give me any for example ?

Edit :

I just played with green machine ... and it gives cool WAH filter :) I`m trying to search more similar sound.


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