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iVan[ruff]
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:43 pm |
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Before I start asking for help, I'll explain the situation. I'm 16 and a junior in high school. I was assigned to do a research project and something controversial in history, and obviously the first thing that popped was "Smack My Bitch Up". Unfortunately, the research paper has to be 3-5 pages long. I only have enough information to have 1 1/2 pages. Could someone help me out? I would also like some quotes from books if it's possible, please?
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Cogglesz
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:47 pm |
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trying to write a 3 to 5 page essay about smbu is a little hard but i think u should check wikipedia because that tells u all about the media attention towards the tune and all that, perhaps u could turn the essay into what trouble the tune got into ror somthing
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iVan[ruff]
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:03 am |
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Yeah, about Wikipedia...
The teacher won't let us use it, since anyone can edit anything on it, and Wikipedia is like where I get all of my information from.
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Vetal17
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:07 am |
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search the forum for smbu videos
there's one about the smbu controversy, blah blah blah
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iVan[ruff]
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:24 am |
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All right now that I got that, I now need 2 quotes from a book, please?
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feelthy
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:45 am |
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Quote: Meanwhile, in the USA, the delivery of 3,000 copies of the promotional poster to US stores Kmart and Wal-Mart, the largest chainstores in the country, resulted in their immediate refusal to sell the single, with the album also being withdrawn from stock, their reasoning being that 'Smack My Bitch Up' was inappropriate to the family-friendly policies of a chain that already refused to sell 'Parental Advisory'-stickered records.
Martin James "Prodigy" biography, Sanctuary Publishing, 2002, page 216 of 318
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Prodigy-Martin- ... 759&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.com/Prodigy-Martin-Ja ... 807&sr=1-2
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:08 am |
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Quote: If the 'Smack My Bitch Up' single hadn't created enough of a stir, the video succeeded in adding to the heat. In what was considered a promo for pornography, drugs and violence, the directors managed to add a new twist to the lyric. In it, the main protagonist is depicted drinking to excess, taking drugs, punching, vomiting and eventually taking a girl back home for casual sex. The twist, of course, was the fact that the main character was revealed in the last frame to be a woman and not a man, as seemed most likely, thus making a mockery of suggestions that the track is about man-on-woman violence.
Furthermore, although the video depicts this behaviour in a potentially glamorous light, in reality everything was overpoweringly seedy. As a result, you get the sense that the track could be about self-inflicted violence, such is the level of self-abuse the main character puts herself through.
Whatever the subtext that existed behind the promo's storyline, its broadcasting on television was, inevitably, restricted. MTV banned it at first, then retracted this action, allowing it to be shown in the early hours of the morning.
'It's just censorship, and some censorship I can agree with,' Maxim was reported as saying. 'Like, a war you see on the news and they show dead bodies, things like that should be censored in a way because [it could] glorify war. As far as the video [goes], it was something that happens in everybody's lives. And one part of that video happens to everybody - you know, people go out, they drink at weekends, some people do drugs, some people don't. I'm not sayin' every weekend, but during a lifetime. It was overdone, in a way, and it was all in one night. But, you know, people are experiencing it. That's been what I have seen. There's prostitution goin' on...and at the end, obviously, everybody thought there's gonna be a man, but there's a woman, 'cos we're just tryin' to say that women are just as bad as men, really. And not so much as just as bad as men but that women have the freedom to do what men do, and vice versa. But yes, censorship in that way I didn't really agree with it, because it's a music video and there wasn't anything really drastic in the video to censor, because half of the things you saw in the video you can buy in an Arnold Schwarzenegger film.'
same source, pages 220-221
any prodigy fan should buy that biog, that's what I say
looking for a new one, MJ said once on nekosite forum he was preparing a new one
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iVan[ruff]
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:35 am |
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yeah well, my parents tell me i have to work in order to buy what i want
they have a point though
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bokorugro
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:20 pm |
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also there was the whole documentary on smbu...how it was degrading to women etc....shahin badar was on it...i am sure it has to be here on the forum somewhere....i know i have it but have to dig around
don't forget the incident (reading 97???)with the beastie boys when they asked maxim not to play the song because of its content and maxim basically told them to fuck off on stage...classic
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:05 pm |
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It was Reading 98 Maxim said "They didn't want us to play this fucking tune, and the way things go, I do what the fuck I want " and then they played it
About the documentary about smbu:s controversy, it was on Youtube but it has been removed (don't know why) but there could be a download link. It could be pretty good for your essay, you could get the feminists point of view
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iVan[ruff]
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:37 pm |
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TheBitchUhated wrote: It was Reading 98 Maxim said "They didn't want us to play this fucking tune, and the way things go, I do what the fuck I want " and then they played it About the documentary about smbu:s controversy, it was on Youtube but it has been removed (don't know why) but there could be a download link. It could be pretty good for your essay, you could get the feminists point of view
sooo...you expect me to have my mom listen and watch the video?
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:34 pm |
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"something controversial in history" ???
Why you don´t write about Prodigy from "Firestarter" up to "Baby´s Got A Temper !" ??? I guess, there were a lot of controversial things that happened
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FLAME-XIII
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:16 pm |
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the prodigy are faggots...what can be more controversially ?
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:25 pm |
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FLAME-XIII wrote: the prodigy are faggots...what can be more controversially ?
Maxim used to a be white woman and had a race sex change. It's in her eyes, baby.
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:13 pm |
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ruffVOODOOmagik wrote: sooo...you expect me to have my mom listen and watch the video?
uhm...would that be a problem?
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