i aint got the book though mate unfortunatly, i borrowed it from a freind of mine but he wanted it back

Yeah it is music for the voodoo crew.

nice pictures Flame, thanks

The 'Lard or Steel' quote was made by Hermann Goering in June 1938:

"Schacht and his Ministry of Economics had been told six months earlier to start making secret economic preparations for war, and he had used considerable sleight of hand to find the necessary funds so far. Along with a number of decidedly dodgy financial manoeuvres, he had been forced to create a seige economy, banning virtually all consumer imports and severely restricting foreign currency transactions. But he believed there were limits beyond which he dared not push the long-suffering German public. 'They are being starved of oil to cook with, butter for their bread, meat for a Sunday dinner,' he told Goering. 'Soon there will be a black market, and then we will have to start shooting people. I simply cannot spare you any more money.' Schacht might have been one of the worlds most brilliant economists, but he was no politician and knew little about ordinary people. Goering, on the other hand, knew nothing about economics, but everything about what the German people really wanted.
For three weeks he worked with Pilli Koerner on a major speech, which he then delivered with great panache to a mass rally in Hamburg, the city where the loudest complaints about austerity rations had been made. Wearing his Luftwaffe uniform and looking quite drawn after his latest bout of slimming, he began by outlining the tremendous progress that had already been made in restoring German pride through rearmament. He then moved on to remind his audience of the shaming restrictions still imposed on their country by Versailles.
Only through strength, he told them, could Germany regain her rightful place in the sun. Having softened the meeting up, he delivered the killer punch. 'I must speak clearly,' he cried. 'Some people in international life are very hard of hearing. They can only be made to listen if they hear guns go off. We are getting those guns. We have no butter, comrades, but I ask you: would you rather have butter or guns? Shall we bring in lard, or iron ores? I tell you, being prepared makes us powerful. Butter only makes us fat!' He slapped his hollow belly to emphasise his point, and the meeting erupted into roars of approval. Radio listeners all over Germany joined in. Hitler sent him a telegram of congratulations. Schacht came up with the money for the Luftwaffe. The speech was reported around the world. The defining phrase, 'guns or butter' entered the international vocabulary. Goering, of course, never had to make the choice for himself - he could always have both. But no one ever mentioned that."

- From 'The Devil's Disciples' by Anthony Read.

it kinda freaks me out, stop.

the whole nazi imagery comes from punk! look back 2 the days of punk it was just there 2 shock and upset as was the whole punk attitude punks used 2 wear swastikas on their clothes! i think sid visous had a t shirt with it on and others had the arm bands with it on! (not something i agree on or recomend!)

the prodigy av always seen themselfs with this same punk angle in what they do and i think the whole fat of the land vibe was on that level! and i remeber liam saying b4 about that quote he looked at it like sampling u take something out of 1 context and make it ur own! 2 me tho the album carryed a contraversal theme from smak my bitch up 2 firestarter vids the aggresive stage look of that time it just fitted in well 2 the whole performance and vibe! along with that quote gave em a shock factor which i loved and made the band more interesting!

AONO had none of that apart from keefs hittlerish hair BIG DEAL!! and liam fucking up wacko jackos tune! dont think u can compare keefs hand gestres 2 hitler tho thats just his way of conecting the crowd making us wild!! i hope with the new record they do get a back on the shock level the "are u ready 2 burn ibiza" lyric on heatwave hurricane is def on that
level!!! i do think tho keef is the 1 with the "troublestarter ideas" look at Rohyponal lyrics as well!! but i love all that keep it up boyz!!! <H^Z/\/\

very nice photo from brighton 2005, it's enough big to be used as wallpaper

Sorry man , but i must say the only swastikas that really punks had are anti nazis stickers or anti swastikas t-shirt - Punks hate nazis !

http://www.punk77.co.uk/graphics/nancy/nancysid.jpg

to finish this topic:



so liam was lying in last q magazine interview, he stated that he didn't know it was nazi quote

yeah whatever I don't think he has the urge to discuss it over and over again with another journalist defending himself for using that quote.

waait

i just remembered somthing else tooo, first warning kicked off in smokin aces at the nazi chainsaw scene


and you guys still think its accidental

No, it's CO-incidental..

i wasnt saying punks are nazis i was saying they av used the swastika in their fashion! and i know 4 a fact it wasnt coz they agreed on nazis it was 2 just shock and upset and cause effect!! and iam sure it did! <H^Z/\/\

aaaaaaa!!! guys!! u should to create a new topic for this discussion!!
this topic for pics only!

it was you that started it