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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:09 am
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I think they made Harvey Dent one of the most interesting characters of the movie.
But ah well it was nothing compared with the joker :lol:
I just can't believe Heath did it so fucking good.
I had shivers in every scene he was playing.

The best part for me when the videotape with Joker interferring the Batman-wannabe hostage was shown on the tv.

I never heard anyone say 'Look at me' so goddamn brilliant, evil and psychotic at the same time.

Man this was seriously the best Batman ever.
I hope they won't make The Joker return ever again in another Batman movie.
It may be Batman's archenemy.
But nobody can top what Heath performed.
Let the joker rot in Arkham Asylum and never be visually mentioned ever again :-D


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:22 pm
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I saw it and I found myself begging for the joker to come back on whenever he wasn't in a scene.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:09 pm
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Heath as the Joker was simply amazing... not to sound all cheeseball movie reviewer... but it was a stellar performance.

i never saw a villain played so on the brink of insanity, where you left at scene with him just because how uncomfortable he can make the atmosphere when he enters a scene.

i don't think the Joker should be brought back at all, no other actor stepping in to play him. even though he survives at the end, they can do some mention about him in the next one.

as for Harvey Dent, is that it? Two Face dead so soon?

or is he alive still and Batman and Gordon have to keep him on a short leash to keep up the public image. and maybe somehow he gets loose and joins up with who ever the next villain is.

and that brings an important question...
what next? who next?

we have many villains, but who will be the best to bring in the next movie...
i'm divided between The Penguin and The Riddler... or both.

who will they get to play them?
i would almost live to see Jim Carey reprise the role of The Riddler. he was really good. and with all the drama movies lately he's been doing, it would be nice to see him comeback with something for sinister, yet funny. take the Riddler to a little more darker place.

overall, AWESOME MOVIE... even with all the political undertones.

the movie mentions terrorism and the idea Batman starts spying on everyone in the city using the sonar device, almost like Bush with his Patriot Act and illegal wiretappings. even that whole amazing speech by The Joker and "The Big Plan."

a truckload of soldiers are gonna die tomorrow and no one cares, but if one poor old man is gonna die, everyone loses their minds.

a lot of hidden meaning in this movie

but on the lighter note...
my two favorite Joker parts...
1) the magic pencil disappearing
2) "I'm like a dog chasing after a car, I wouldn't know what to do if I caught up with it."

shame he died so young and in his prime...
but the way he plays The Joker, you watch the movie and don't even think it's Heath Ledger. just such a different role for him. he is The Joker.

R.I.P.



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:39 pm
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Anyone here thinks as i do that script has changed?? because of heaths death?? overall i still thinks that this movie is amazins and one of the best movies of this century but i have little suggestion here, that Christopher Nolan changed the ending because he didnt want to show heath (Joker) death once more time to all people. Maybe i'm wrong but first concept was about Joker death at the ending of the movie but Nolan decided to change the movie ending in the "good way" just to not show the heaths ledger death to all people, especially of his family that are still didnt shakeover after his strange death ... anyone has the same feelings?



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:45 pm
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MaxReal wrote:
Anyone here thinks as i do that script has changed?? because of heaths death?? overall i still thinks that this movie is amazins and one of the best movies of this century but i have little suggestion here, that Christopher Nolan changed the ending because he didnt want to show heath (Joker) death once more time to all people. Maybe i'm wrong but first concept was about Joker death at the ending of the movie but Nolan decided to change the movie ending in the "good way" just to not show the heaths ledger death to all people, especially of his family that are still didnt shakeover after his strange death ... anyone has the same feelings?

i don't think so.the filming stoped before heath was dead.and after heath died the movie was still in post-production.i don't think they could have film again the joker's capture and him in the asylum with heath being dead.and i think they had to leave the door open for the joke to apear again sometime in the series, nut necesarily this one with chrystian bale but other.and let's not forget joker is the arch enemy.h e won't be killed ever



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:01 am
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Nolan made the right choice, not just because of Heath's death, but also for the future of the character.

Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing another acting great try to take on the role and fill Ledger's humongous shoes. They could bring something completely different to the character for a sequel. It might not be as good, but that's not really the point, is it?

Johnny Depp perhaps...

And come on, Harvey Dent is NOT dead. Gimme a break!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:37 pm
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Pinhead wrote:
MaxReal wrote:
Anyone here thinks as i do that script has changed?? because of heaths death?? overall i still thinks that this movie is amazins and one of the best movies of this century but i have little suggestion here, that Christopher Nolan changed the ending because he didnt want to show heath (Joker) death once more time to all people. Maybe i'm wrong but first concept was about Joker death at the ending of the movie but Nolan decided to change the movie ending in the "good way" just to not show the heaths ledger death to all people, especially of his family that are still didnt shakeover after his strange death ... anyone has the same feelings?

i don't think so.the filming stoped before heath was dead.and after heath died the movie was still in post-production.i don't think they could have film again the joker's capture and him in the asylum with heath being dead.and i think they had to leave the door open for the joke to apear again sometime in the series, nut necesarily this one with chrystian bale but other.and let's not forget joker is the arch enemy.h e won't be killed ever


They didnt need to shoot again jokers capture, maybe the first version Was when Batman kills joker cutting the line he was on, and joker died by falling from heights, but nolan didnt want to show this to people , and ended with just capture the joker. Why there is no scene with joker after the capturing?? in Arkham Facility?? i'm think the original idea was to kill joker falling from the building to reminds people about last scene from the original batman where Joker has been killled by the fall from the roof. But nolan changed the ending because of Heaths Deatht . Thats my opinion and it could be wrong:)

P.S. If Heath Ledger will not win the Oskar for this performance i will go to the Los Angeles with Axe in my hand and i will kill all those bastards from the academy:)



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:23 pm
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MaxReal wrote:
Pinhead wrote:
MaxReal wrote:
Anyone here thinks as i do that script has changed?? because of heaths death?? overall i still thinks that this movie is amazins and one of the best movies of this century but i have little suggestion here, that Christopher Nolan changed the ending because he didnt want to show heath (Joker) death once more time to all people. Maybe i'm wrong but first concept was about Joker death at the ending of the movie but Nolan decided to change the movie ending in the "good way" just to not show the heaths ledger death to all people, especially of his family that are still didnt shakeover after his strange death ... anyone has the same feelings?

i don't think so.the filming stoped before heath was dead.and after heath died the movie was still in post-production.i don't think they could have film again the joker's capture and him in the asylum with heath being dead.and i think they had to leave the door open for the joke to apear again sometime in the series, nut necesarily this one with chrystian bale but other.and let's not forget joker is the arch enemy.h e won't be killed ever


They didnt need to shoot again jokers capture, maybe the first version Was when Batman kills joker cutting the line he was on, and joker died by falling from heights, but nolan didnt want to show this to people , and ended with just capture the joker. Why there is no scene with joker after the capturing?? in Arkham Facility?? i'm think the original idea was to kill joker falling from the building to reminds people about last scene from the original batman where Joker has been killled by the fall from the roof. But nolan changed the ending because of Heaths Deatht . Thats my opinion and it could be wrong:)



There were rumors about that but that was before anyone has seen a single frame of the film. Ledger did finish the filming of the Joker. And judging from what I've been reading on the web Joker is supposed to re-appear in the third installment of the Dark Knight. Obviously, he will have to be re-cast.


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i'm watching it again and the only thing i don't like is that there is no consistency with how the city looks from movie to movie.the first had that train suspended and the pipes in it,with the massive wayne tower in the center of the city.now that's gone,the city looks like new york with the normal suspended train,wayne building looks like a regular skyscraper



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I have to say that the movie was a dissapointment. It was too long. The whole Two-Face shit was just too much to be in the movie along with everything else. Harvey Dent as Harvey Dent would have been enough in the frames of the movie. It was good pretty much until they captured the Joker for the first time. After that the whole thing got too long and too boring. Just too much of everything. And that Gordon's monologue in the end about the dark knight was totally unnecessary. Well, at least there weren't any fuckin' American flags flowing in the wind like in Spiderman (and a million other Hollywood movies)...


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:18 pm
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Pinhead wrote:
i'm watching it again and the only thing i don't like is that there is no consistency with how the city looks from movie to movie.the first had that train suspended and the pipes in it,with the massive wayne tower in the center of the city.now that's gone,the city looks like new york with the normal suspended train,wayne building looks like a regular skyscraper


Well C. Nolan began a new batman saga. Burton and Schumacher made batman movies more from the comics book stile and it was totaly different atmosphere. It looked like new york but the movie was shot in chicago. Nolan had mention that he will make more human and relistic batman.

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I have to say that the movie was a dissapointment. It was too long. The whole Two-Face shit was just too much to be in the movie along with everything else. Harvey Dent as Harvey Dent would have been enough in the frames of the movie. It was good pretty much until they captured the Joker for the first time. After that the whole thing got too long and too boring. Just too much of everything. And that Gordon's monologue in the end about the dark knight was totally unnecessary. Well, at least there weren't any fuckin' American flags flowing in the wind like in Spiderman (and a million other Hollywood movies)...


I did not seen any gaps on the plot. dark knight is connected with Batman begins ending (Jocker, Scarecrow). Everything goes fine by the same usual formula, the bad guy is doin' a crime and the good guy have to catch him. However Nolan and the script writers had success entering the third player - two face. Heath The Joker Ledger made the movie so damn spicy and no one would do that fine as he did, not even Nickolson, not even Devito or even Schwarzenegger.

the two ships scene as I understan was to show that gotham city people aren't so fucket up to blow them selfs and Batman can trust them. Although I wish they show that more impressive not just a cheap drama trick. Anyway it did not disturbed me of watching it. I did not yawn in entire 3 hours.



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:50 pm
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untitled6 wrote:
Pinhead wrote:
i'm watching it again and the only thing i don't like is that there is no consistency with how the city looks from movie to movie.the first had that train suspended and the pipes in it,with the massive wayne tower in the center of the city.now that's gone,the city looks like new york with the normal suspended train,wayne building looks like a regular skyscraper


Well C. Nolan began a new batman saga. Burton and Schumacher made batman movies more from the comics book stile and it was totaly different atmosphere. It looked like new york but the movie was shot in chicago. Nolan had mention that he will make more human and relistic batman.

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i mean differences from batman begins directed by nolan and batman the dark knight by nlan.same director,same batman,different city looks



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