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Molotov_Beatz
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:22 am |
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ColonelPosts: 893Location: Québec (Montréal)Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:46 am
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Steelll modafuka!!!
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Stasz
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:24 am |
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GeneralPosts: 3702Location: Almere, The NetherlandsJoined: Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:54 pm
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steel.
I don't fucking know the comparision about these two anyway.
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Fifer
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:33 am |
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GeneralPosts: 2753Location: Amsterdam, NetherlandsJoined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:00 pm
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Butter, I fucking love that shit! Fuck can I do with a lump of stee? Besides rapping some sad-act in the puss with it?
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Molotov_Beatz
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:37 am |
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ColonelPosts: 893Location: Québec (Montréal)Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:46 am
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you can fucking know the haters out with steel!!
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Fifer
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:39 am |
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GeneralPosts: 2753Location: Amsterdam, NetherlandsJoined: Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:00 pm
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Fuck that! I'll butter your steel mate and............. that just sounds wrong!
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Molotov_Beatz
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:46 am |
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ColonelPosts: 893Location: Québec (Montréal)Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:46 am
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Fifer wrote: Fuck that! I'll butter your steel mate and............. that just sounds wrong!
the hidden power of the butter mouahahahha
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JimbQ
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:48 am |
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GeneralPosts: 2862Location: Bristol, UKJoined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:58 pm
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you butter believe it!
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Yeah Geil
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:55 am |
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ColonelPosts: 935Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:29 am
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doesnt it say: lard or steel?
i like lard... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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crazyboy
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:57 am |
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ModeratorPosts: 2211Location: Oslo, NorwayJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:48 pm
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StasZ wrote: steel.
I don't fucking know the comparision about these two anyway.
The album title [The Fat of the Land] is drawn from a quote included in the CD's booklet (spread out, one line per page):
Steel? We have no butter, but I ask you - Would you rather have butter or guns? Shall we import lard or steel? Let me tell you, Preparedness makes us powerful. ...Butter merely makes us fat. Lard?
Although it is not credited in the booklet, the quote is adapted from a broadcasted speech pronounced by Luftwaffe commander and Nazi official Hermann Göring in 1936 (Prodigy's Liam Howlett read it in a book of quotations he was given by his record company for Christmas a couple of years before and liked it).
It served as an introduction to the presentation of his five year economical plan - a critical move in the rise of Nazi Germany from a weakened recession-stricken nation to a hugely powerful military power.
The quote seem to be itself inspired by Nazi Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels who established the "guns instead of butter" motto ("Kannonen stat Butter") by saying in January 1936:
Man zur Not auch einmal ohne Butter, nie aber ohne Kanonen auskommen
"In times of emergency, we can do without butter, but never can we without guns"
Göring's butter vs. guns quote is, in my opinion, a fascinating example of the frighteningly powerful Nazi war rethoric.
Here is, for reference, a statement by band's composer/producer, Liam Howlett regarding their use of this quote:
"Do you know where that came from? This is actually like a Nazi quote. It's like Hermann Goering, Hitler's right hand man. This is the quote he made during the war. Now a lot of people have picked up on this in England. You can imagine what the press have been like, "Oh the Prodigy are Nazis..." All this crap, you know. To simply answer that question: yes, the quote is a Nazi quote and no, we're not Nazis. Obviously we've got two black guys in the band. So to even suggest that is totally brainless anyway. To be honest, that quote is like me using a sample. I look upon that quote as like a sample. I take it out of its original context, put it in my own context and it means something completely different. I look at that quote and that's like a b-boy quote. That's like someone out of a hip-hop scene could have said that. And that's the reason I used it 'cause it's a totally different context. It's like a completely different thing. And it just works well. It has power and it has the right message for what we want. It has nothing to do with what it's originally about."
DejaMorgana mentioned that the expression "The Fat of the Land" can also be found in the Bible (Genesis 45:18) In this passage, Joseph says to his brothers: "And take your father and your households, and come unto me and I will give you the good of the land of Egypt, and ye shall eat the fat of the land."
The Fat of the Land-Everything2.com
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Molotov_Beatz
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:17 am |
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ColonelPosts: 893Location: Québec (Montréal)Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:46 am
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crazyboy wrote: StasZ wrote: steel.
I don't fucking know the comparision about these two anyway. The album title [The Fat of the Land] is drawn from a quote included in the CD's booklet (spread out, one line per page): Steel? We have no butter, but I ask you - Would you rather have butter or guns? Shall we import lard or steel? Let me tell you, Preparedness makes us powerful. ...Butter merely makes us fat. Lard?
Although it is not credited in the booklet, the quote is adapted from a broadcasted speech pronounced by Luftwaffe commander and Nazi official Hermann Göring in 1936 (Prodigy's Liam Howlett read it in a book of quotations he was given by his record company for Christmas a couple of years before and liked it). It served as an introduction to the presentation of his five year economical plan - a critical move in the rise of Nazi Germany from a weakened recession-stricken nation to a hugely powerful military power. The quote seem to be itself inspired by Nazi Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels who established the "guns instead of butter" motto ("Kannonen stat Butter") by saying in January 1936: Man zur Not auch einmal ohne Butter, nie aber ohne Kanonen auskommen "In times of emergency, we can do without butter, but never can we without guns" Göring's butter vs. guns quote is, in my opinion, a fascinating example of the frighteningly powerful Nazi war rethoric. Here is, for reference, a statement by band's composer/producer, Liam Howlett regarding their use of this quote: "Do you know where that came from? This is actually like a Nazi quote. It's like Hermann Goering, Hitler's right hand man. This is the quote he made during the war. Now a lot of people have picked up on this in England. You can imagine what the press have been like, "Oh the Prodigy are Nazis..." All this crap, you know. To simply answer that question: yes, the quote is a Nazi quote and no, we're not Nazis. Obviously we've got two black guys in the band. So to even suggest that is totally brainless anyway. To be honest, that quote is like me using a sample. I look upon that quote as like a sample. I take it out of its original context, put it in my own context and it means something completely different. I look at that quote and that's like a b-boy quote. That's like someone out of a hip-hop scene could have said that. And that's the reason I used it 'cause it's a totally different context. It's like a completely different thing. And it just works well. It has power and it has the right message for what we want. It has nothing to do with what it's originally about." DejaMorgana mentioned that the expression "The Fat of the Land" can also be found in the Bible (Genesis 45:18) In this passage, Joseph says to his brothers: "And take your father and your households, and come unto me and I will give you the good of the land of Egypt, and ye shall eat the fat of the land." The Fat of the Land-Everything2.com
where did u get these informations u freak!!
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kkikx74
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:50 am |
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CaptainPosts: 664Location: CroatiaJoined: Mon May 19, 2008 7:18 am
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i thought everyone knew where this came from. history me lads
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Flachcracker
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:55 am |
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GeneralPosts: 2107Location: Berlin, GermanyJoined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:53 pm
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O know the "Lard-Steel discussion" about Goering, but never heard of "The Fat Of The Land" appears in the bible
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Laurie
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:55 am |
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LieutenantPosts: 533Location: Essex, UKJoined: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:54 pm
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hehe cheers for the info crazyboy
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s1lj0
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:24 am |
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ColonelPosts: 852Joined: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:25 am
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See my sig.
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Molotov_Beatz
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:17 am |
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ColonelPosts: 893Location: Québec (Montréal)Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:46 am
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Hahaha myspace just removed my IMD remix!!!
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