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<  PRODIGY QUESTIONS & OPINIONS  ~  Molotov Beatz - IMD remix used in Fifth Gear S15E1

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:22 am
User avatarColonelColonelPosts: 893Location: Québec (Montréal)Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:46 am
Somebody just discovered that my IMD Remix was used in the UK car show called Fifth Gear. I checked it out and its true. They used a clip of my IMD Remix. :

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YhVBm0EkebQ

http://youtube.com/watch?v=98FxO_Kpv60& ... annel_page

When you look at the end of the episode, you can see that the music editing was done by DAVID LOWE.
http://www.davidlowe.co.uk/

dont know who he is but maybe some of you do. Now tell me what should I do. I feel honored of course because its a brutal blow to my haters and all the ''you're music is shit'' arguments and also, I can see that somebody important takes my work seriously but at the same time its about credit you know. I want you guys to discuss this matter and how you would react and feel.

This is there email so I guess if we want to be heard we must contact them all of us: fifthgear@five.tv If you wanna tell them my name use this (Omar Houari aka Molotov Beatz from Canada,Montreal city, Province of Quebec)

Only those who want to help can do it, if you dont want to I understand but dont tell me you're reasons.

I DONT FUCKING WANT ANY '' YOU DIDNT HAVE PERMISSION'' CAUSE I FUCKING DO AND WE ALL DO. REMEMBER THE COPYRIGHTS TEXT AND SHIT.

Peace

M.B


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:27 am
User avatarPrivatePrivatePosts: 101Location: Essex somewhereJoined: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:42 am
All I can say is wow that sucks! l can see your pretty pissed off they didnt add your name though, they could have atleast informed you. But at the same time its also awesome they picked your track shame it wasnt Top Gear though lmao!


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:29 am
User avatarColonelColonelPosts: 893Location: Québec (Montréal)Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:46 am
Dr. zupan wrote:
All I can say is wow that sucks! l can see your pretty pissed off they didnt add your name though, they could have atleast informed you. But at the same time its also awesome they picked your track shame it wasnt Top Gear though lmao!


Im not pissed off man im more suprised. I wasent suppose to post here for a long time but now im back on track because Electronic Punk told me about it lol. These kinds of things you cant ignore :lol:. Maybe I can get some benefits with it, and im not talking about royalties $$. Im talking about contacts and shit u know or even a second job hahaha.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:33 am
User avatarLieutenantLieutenantPosts: 581Location: Philly, USAJoined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:36 am
So they didn't list any credits at the end? I'd definitely contact someone from the show or the channel its on. Tell them they have to give The Prodigy and you credit for it whenever the re-air it. What if they actually got permission from the label to use your remix, because it says all copyrights belong to them?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:38 am
User avatarColonelColonelPosts: 893Location: Québec (Montréal)Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:46 am
Warning wrote:
So they didn't list any credits at the end? I'd definitely contact someone from the show or the channel its on. Tell them they have to give The Prodigy and you credit for it whenever the re-air it.


I can contact them but what should I say :?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:46 am
User avatarLieutenantLieutenantPosts: 581Location: Philly, USAJoined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:36 am
Molotov_Beatz wrote:
Warning wrote:
So they didn't list any credits at the end? I'd definitely contact someone from the show or the channel its on. Tell them they have to give The Prodigy and you credit for it whenever the re-air it.


I can contact them but what should I say :?
That they used your remix in the show and that it was a remix of IMD that you did and had the permission to do as long as you posted the credits and copyrights to the label. And that they need to have the credits for the song at the end of the episode. Did the copyright letter you got say anything about if someone wants to use your remix what to do? I'm guessing they would have to pay Take Me To The Hospital / Cooking Vinyl for using it right?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:49 am
User avatarColonelColonelPosts: 893Location: Québec (Montréal)Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:46 am
Warning wrote:
Molotov_Beatz wrote:
Warning wrote:
So they didn't list any credits at the end? I'd definitely contact someone from the show or the channel its on. Tell them they have to give The Prodigy and you credit for it whenever the re-air it.


I can contact them but what should I say :?
That they used your remix in the show and that it was a remix of IMD that you did and had the permission to do as long as you posted the credits and copyrights to the label. And that they need to have the credits for the song at the end of the episode. Did the copyright letter you got say anything about if someone wants to use your remix what to do? I'm guessing they would have to pay Take Me To The Hospital / Cooking Vinyl for using it right?


no they just told me about how i should use it and post it. They even warned me not to show those emails. So I guess its all about credit you know.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:00 am
User avatarLieutenantLieutenantPosts: 581Location: Philly, USAJoined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:36 am
Molotov_Beatz wrote:
Warning wrote:
Molotov_Beatz wrote:
Warning wrote:
So they didn't list any credits at the end? I'd definitely contact someone from the show or the channel its on. Tell them they have to give The Prodigy and you credit for it whenever the re-air it.


I can contact them but what should I say :?
That they used your remix in the show and that it was a remix of IMD that you did and had the permission to do as long as you posted the credits and copyrights to the label. And that they need to have the credits for the song at the end of the episode. Did the copyright letter you got say anything about if someone wants to use your remix what to do? I'm guessing they would have to pay Take Me To The Hospital / Cooking Vinyl for using it right?


no they just told me about how i should use it and post it. They even warned me not to show those emails. So I guess its all about credit you know.
Maybe you should contact the label then and let them know its come to your attention that the show used your remix without your knowledge. Hopefully this wont lead to them getting stricter on the rules for fan remixes and only on the show for not giving credit or paying fees.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:12 am
User avatarColonelColonelPosts: 893Location: Québec (Montréal)Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:46 am
Dr.Zupan contacted them and wrote a nice letter. I hope we can get something from them.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:24 am
User avatarColonelColonelPosts: 893Location: Québec (Montréal)Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:46 am
lets hope for da best :)


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:05 am
User avatarGeneralGeneralPosts: 2949Location: woppity woppity woppityJoined: Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:33 am
I'm leaning more towards the point that although you have permission to post the remix publically, the exclusive rights of the track officially remains the property of Cooking Vinyl/TMTTH.

The Fifth Gear producers will probably be a member of a central recording industry (ie British Phonographic Industry www.bpi.co.uk) and have purchased a blanket-license that permits them to use songs without credit, and the royalties are distributed to their relevant labels/artists... Sadly in this case, not you.

Personally, if you really want to make a big deal about it, I would be contacting Cooking Vinyl directly and letting them know how your remix was used and asking what rights you have in terms of credits. Be very careful though, you are stepping into serious legal waters here.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:25 am
User avatarColonelColonelPosts: 893Location: Québec (Montréal)Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:46 am
Aquila wrote:
I'm leaning more towards the point that although you have permission to post the remix publically, the exclusive rights of the track officially remains the property of Cooking Vinyl/TMTTH.

The Fifth Gear producers will probably be a member of a central recording industry (ie British Phonographic Industry www.bpi.co.uk) and have purchased a blanket-license that permits them to use songs without credit, and the royalties are distributed to their relevant labels/artists... Sadly in this case, not you.

Personally, if you really want to make a big deal about it, I would be contacting Cooking Vinyl directly and letting them know how your remix was used and asking what rights you have in terms of credits. Be very careful though, you are stepping into serious legal waters here.


dont want any royalties. And if they refuse for the credits, what else can I do. This event has made me stronger, more confident and more determined :twisted: . They can take da money man, just want them to know that it comes from a fan in a lil bedroom making muzik for plaisure Just like someone use to do :wink:.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:31 am
User avatarGeneralGeneralPosts: 2861Location: Bristol, UKJoined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:58 pm
Go Molotov!!!

Remember the time you said you were going to stay away from the forums for a good time? :P Hehe.

Maybe you should contact them with some of your own music and see if theyre interested in using any of that on any of their future shows? It could be a good start to getting your own music heard by people if they like it?



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:22 pm
User avatarPrivatePrivatePosts: 101Location: Essex somewhereJoined: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:42 am
Molotov_Beatz wrote:

dont want any royalties. And if they refuse for the credits, what else can I do. This event has made me stronger, more confident and more determined :twisted: . They can take da money man, just want them to know that it comes from a fan in a lil bedroom making muzik for plaisure Just like someone use to do :wink:.


Damn straight Molotov! fuck the haters you produce some of the best remixes ive heard, some even better than official remixes and all your asking in return is a little bit of credit atleast, well there is nothing wrong with that, legal or not its your work and you should be credited for it.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:40 pm
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Aquila wrote:
I'm leaning more towards the point that although you have permission to post the remix publically, the exclusive rights of the track officially remains the property of Cooking Vinyl/TMTTH.

The Fifth Gear producers will probably be a member of a central recording industry (ie British Phonographic Industry www.bpi.co.uk) and have purchased a blanket-license that permits them to use songs without credit, and the royalties are distributed to their relevant labels/artists... Sadly in this case, not you.

Personally, if you really want to make a big deal about it, I would be contacting Cooking Vinyl directly and letting them know how your remix was used and asking what rights you have in terms of credits. Be very careful though, you are stepping into serious legal waters here.

I'm pretty sure TV companies can use any music they like as long as the clip is less than 30 seconds they don't have to pay.
For example: -
"No royalty shall be payable by Last.fm for preview clips or any play of Your Content that is less than 30 seconds."
An article that mentions how TV companies pay for music: -
http://www.showreel.org/article.php?91& ... 639ca976ce


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