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Agent Orange
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:49 am |
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The Orange AuthorityPosts: 4748Location: NetherlandsJoined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:39 pm
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Websheriff wrote: WEB SHERIFF Protecting Your Rights on the Internet Tel 44-(0)208-323 8013 Fax 44-(0)208 323 8080 websheriff@websheriff.com www.websheriff.com Hey 'Agent',To properly answer these questions, everything is ultimately traceable ... .. eg. an album promo appeared on eBay the other day and, within hours, not only was the seller traced, but also the shop that he got it from and the person who sold it to the shop (who was someone who should have known better) ... .. it works pretty much the same on-line and, of course, pre-release leaks can be very commercially (and artistically) damaging ... .. that being said, that's not why we're here ... .. we're simply here to to make a straighforward appeal to the band's fans to bear-in-mind the wishes of the band and their label. Best, WEB SHERIFF
Ok, fair enough. & Thanks for your reply. I know everything is tracable... but is it even legal to sell a promo? Even if it's for personal use? There is another case of a promo being sold on Ebay, and you didn't seem to have caught him, and the seller. I see what you mean by the band's whishes, but what are you going to do if that one person owning the promo leaks it on let's say, a public library? Will you close the library down and make fingerprints, watch camerarecordings? Just curious what will happen with that particular promo once it leaks... I'm not saying it will, but just imagine this scenario.
By the way... My alter ego is Agent Orange (hence the orange in my avatar and signature and certain names and words and Prodigy's recent style choices). I'm not calling you We Sherri so pretty please, the title Agent alone is not enough... Orange too, please.
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Websheriff
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:50 am |
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GruntPosts: 68Location: LONDONJoined: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:12 pm
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WEB SHERIFF
Protecting Your Rights on the Internet
Tel 44-(0)208-323 8013
Fax 44-(0)208 323 8080
websheriff@websheriff.com
www.websheriff.com
Hi Evans,
The individual concerned was struck-off the mailing list and, had his / her (watermarked) copy been responsible for the leak then, "Yes", legal action would have followed - although, fortunately for everyone concerned, this didn't prove to be neccessary.
Regards,
WEB SHERIFF
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climbatize92
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:50 am |
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GeneralPosts: 1663Location: Paris, FranceJoined: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:17 pm
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Will i go to jail then?
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Visualer
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:50 am |
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GruntPosts: 2Location: BngladejJoined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:34 pm
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i have Omen single with all the remixes in lossless format
can i upload it? no? )
muhahh ))) sorry, but you loose
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Electronic_Punk®
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:50 am |
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Prodigious ArabPosts: 4204Location: The Dark SideJoined: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:22 pm
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Websheriff wrote: As for doughnuts - EP - the Posse tend to favour the jam variety.
I knew it !!!
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climbatize92
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:52 am |
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GeneralPosts: 1663Location: Paris, FranceJoined: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:17 pm
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Visualer wrote: i have Omen single with all the remixes in lossless format can i upload it? no? )
muhahh ))) sorry, but you loose Do you get it from me?
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Websheriff
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:56 am |
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GruntPosts: 68Location: LONDONJoined: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:12 pm
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WEB SHERIFF
Protecting Your Rights on the Internet
Tel 44-(0)208-323 8013
Fax 44-(0)208 323 8080
websheriff@websheriff.com
www.websheriff.com
Hi Agent Orange,
'Sorry' for the abbreviation ... .. orange is a cool colour and, as for 'Clockwork', well it's an all-time classic ... .. can't give-away too many trade secrets, but public library scenario would certainly be a bit of a conundrum !!
Best,
WEB SHERI
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s0ren
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:56 am |
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GeneralPosts: 1769Joined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:09 am
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Well okay, now the quality of this topic has somewhat degraded... Theres no doubt about the fairness/legality of Omen and WOF.
I dont like websheriff much, but im delighted that theres atleast a little sense down there somewhere.
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Websheriff
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:00 am |
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GruntPosts: 68Location: LONDONJoined: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:12 pm
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WEB SHERIFF
Protecting Your Rights on the Internet
Tel 44-(0)208-323 8013
Fax 44-(0)208 323 8080
websheriff@websheriff.com
www.websheriff.com
Hey EP (can we 'abbreviate' you ?!),
See you have us rumbled in the doughnut department ... .. but is our favourite jam strawberry or raspberry ?!
Best,
WEB SHERIFF
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Electronic_Punk®
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:01 am |
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Prodigious ArabPosts: 4204Location: The Dark SideJoined: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:22 pm
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Hmm Rasberry !
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Agent Orange
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:03 am |
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The Orange AuthorityPosts: 4748Location: NetherlandsJoined: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:39 pm
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Websheriff wrote: WEB SHERIFF Protecting Your Rights on the Internet Tel 44-(0)208-323 8013 Fax 44-(0)208 323 8080 websheriff@websheriff.com www.websheriff.com Hi Agent Orange,'Sorry' for the abbreviation ... .. orange is a cool colour and, as for 'Clockwork', well it's an all-time classic ... .. can't give-away too many trade secrets, but public library scenario would certainly be a bit of a conundrum !! Best, WEB SHERI
Again, thanks for your reply. Yes indeed, Orange is a cool colour. I think it has been in the shadow of red and yellow for too long anyway.
I was not really aiming at what you do exactly to get to the leaker but I was more interested in what the consequences are for such a crime. I know the person who has the promo (second hand owner), but he/she isn't the rightful owner. Now I know there's ways to get to that person AFTER it leaks, but lets say the owner of the Promo is very smart and capable, and doesn't leak it, just on an instant messenger to some select friends only. Will you still try to find him? Can you even find him or her? Again, just curious.
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evans
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:03 am |
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ModeratorPosts: 4789Location: Wolverhampton, UKJoined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:52 pm
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Should be custard donuts, those are niiiiice when put in the micrwave for 10 secs to heat the custard
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Websheriff
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:05 am |
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GruntPosts: 68Location: LONDONJoined: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:12 pm
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WEB SHERIFF
Protecting Your Rights on the Internet
Tel 44-(0)208-323 8013
Fax 44-(0)208 323 8080
websheriff@websheriff.com
www.websheriff.com
Hey sOren,
Thanks (genuinely) for your post ... .. fyi, there may well be further, official preview material around-the-corner and, fyi, we're always in favour of fans and bloggers being given as much material pre-relesase as possible / as feasible (ie. so they can enjoy new album material but without ruining the marketing plans or completely taking-away the 'thunder' of a proper release).
Cheers,
WEB SHERIFF
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Frequen-Cee
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:07 am |
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GruntPosts: 34Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:44 pm
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s0ren wrote: Nothing personal against you...
But send a message back to the band: "Sack me!"
I am far from impressed with your exploitation of youtube copyright infringement procedures (remove first - ask later) where you remove videos that clearly has been stated by the band not to be a problem, like the video mentioned before... hence my sharp tongue. I respect the bands right and interest in preventing their commercial material from being leaked, but its obvious it has gone beyond that...
It's a bit odd it being removed actually.
Liam mentioned this footage (not by name, but it was obvious) in a magazine published this month in the UK (either Front or Loaded, can't remember which) saying it had 400,000 hits and that "you can't buy marketing like that".
So they like the free marketing, but they don't like the free marketing being published on YouTube?
I must be missing the point
I don't get though how that removed footage was different to the ones I posted (i.e. Omen: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eMkCt6MWJlk) (apart from yes, the quality being a bit shit....)
Don't take this as an attack Web Sheriff - I'm not complaining because you did let me keep my IMD tour concert footage on YouTube!
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Warning
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:09 am |
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LieutenantPosts: 581Location: Philly, USAJoined: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:36 am
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Does that means we'll be hearing more preview material of Thunder?
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